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Am I Reading This Right?... Rosie Duffield Throwing KJK Under The Bus?!

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EpicChaos · 10/03/2023 02:23

From what i can tell, Rosie has quote tweeted a lloyd russell tweet, that is having a go at Kellie J.
Rosie it seems, has thrown Kellie under the bus by claiming, ' look i'm not like that other woman, so listen to me '! That's how i'm reading it anyway.
If so, that's the last time i hop in when it's rosie getting all the flak, she can do one!
I notice Bindle is there too!

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Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:43

Yes. But they don't run and tell the abusers, do they?

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:43

. If a kid knows SS are going to be involved they are less likely to seek out contraceptives or an abortion

Did you know that even teachers say that they can’t guarantee confidentiality they are told something that they will need to inform social services about.

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:42

I absolutely do, but if they know that's going to happen, if that's their only route to access, they aren't going to go. And she wasn't talking just about social services, she was talking about the potential rapist needing to be the one who okays access.

Helleofabore · 10/03/2023 08:42

SapphosRock · 10/03/2023 08:21

To be fair to KJK she has been pretty consistent in not considering abortion rights to be a priority.

She is entitled to her views but obviously many GC will disagree.

Can we be clear here though, and not talk round the issue. She has also clarified this in the past day.

There is a difference between ‘not prioritising’ abortion and being against abortion!!

she is pro choice and continued attempts to undermine that are obvious.

drwitch · 10/03/2023 08:41

nspcc link for interest. Not clear to me whether kjk was saying there are not enough protections here or that we need to keep these safeguards

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:41

Like what?

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:40

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:39

I'm implying a family member. If a kid knows SS are going to be involved they are less likely to seek out contraceptives or an abortion, and their access to that is the most important thing here.

You are nuts. You think social services shouldn’t be involved if a child is being sexually abused at home…. Fuck me.

FourTeaFallOut · 10/03/2023 08:39

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:38

If you are implying a family member, you don’t think social services and parents need to be informed, the child doesn’t need a care protection order?

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If the concern is that a 12 yo is being hamed by a family member or pimped out, then more work needs to be done than preventing pregnancy and then sending them on their way

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:39

I'm implying a family member. If a kid knows SS are going to be involved they are less likely to seek out contraceptives or an abortion, and their access to that is the most important thing here.

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:38

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:36

Who has impregnated this child? Who is the most likely culprit? What kind of home life can lead a 12 year old to be sexually active?

If you are implying a family member, you don’t think social services and parents need to be informed, the child doesn’t need a care protection order?

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:36

Who has impregnated this child? Who is the most likely culprit? What kind of home life can lead a 12 year old to be sexually active?

AlisonDonut · 10/03/2023 08:35

If a 12 year old needs an abortion then yes, there needs to be much better safeguarding.

That's the point.

Honestly some people are so quick to trigger without thinking through to the end of the sentence.

FourTeaFallOut · 10/03/2023 08:35

It seems the tangible difference between a 12 year old girl and a 12 year old young woman, is the number of times she has been raped?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 10/03/2023 08:33

FourTeaFallOut · 10/03/2023 08:26

'Young Woman' is doing some heavy lifting there when we are talking about a 12 year old girl.

Deffo not a woman.

Woman = ADULT human female.

Adult is 18 in the UK and 16 is the age of sexual consent.

12 year olds are largely still in the dithering about getting rid of their dollies stage.

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:32

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FOJN · 10/03/2023 08:30

Soontobe60 · 10/03/2023 08:16

This is absolutely the point people are missing.
Providing contraception for young girls without investigating why she is having sex, and with whom, is a safeguarding issue. Who should be advocating for her? Who should be protecting her? Who is ensuring her safety? Because 12 year olds cannot consent to sex - it’s rape, pure and simple.
Feminists should be shouting this from the rooftops!

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Thank you.

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:30

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:26

So then they won't get the contraceptives and abortions. Good plan!

Together they’ll create a safeguarding plan to protect that child, including protecting her from activity which could lead to pregnancy, contraception if that fails and abortion if necessary.

Seems you think a sexually active twelve year old is ‘nothing to see here’.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 10/03/2023 08:30

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:26

So then they won't get the contraceptives and abortions. Good plan!

NO! Christ on a cracker! That’s not what we are saying at all. Only that it shouldn’t be a secret via Gillick Competency.

That she will have parental and/or social services support.

Not just taken along to the clinic by the skeevy paedo ‘boyfriend’ who knocked her up.

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:28

Sometimes. Absolutely.

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:28

Who definitely should not become a mother.

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:27

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:26

So then they won't get the contraceptives and abortions. Good plan!

You think that parents and social services won’t agree to getting their twelve year old daughter an abortion?

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:26

So then they won't get the contraceptives and abortions. Good plan!

FourTeaFallOut · 10/03/2023 08:26

'Young Woman' is doing some heavy lifting there when we are talking about a 12 year old girl.

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:26

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:25

And safeguarding means denying young women contraceptives and abortion??

It means informing parents and social services.

Elizaazile · 10/03/2023 08:25

And safeguarding means denying young women contraceptives and abortion??