Am I Reading This Right?... Rosie Duffield Throwing KJK Under The Bus?!

Datun that depends on your definition of women's rights.

A women's right to access single sex spaces is not worlds apart from a women's right to access legal abortion.

Lots of feminists (ie Rosie Duffield) consider these equally important issues.

Meanwhile, you cant seriously think that a woman travelling all over the western world, specifically to give a platform to women affected by gender ideology, in the teeth of death threats and relentless violence, should drop all that in favour of prioritising something else entirely.

Can you.

People outside Brighton talk bollocks too - take Stella Creasy for example….

The whole abortion thing - it’s just strategic piggy backing that has worked for TRAs in Ireland.

Pretending our situation is comparable to America is like saying we need to ‘prioritise the indigenous people’ of the UK.

No probs @EpicChaos , apology accepted and hope you found something nice to eat.

The wife is away this weekend and I am losing motivation to cook.

The post I am being criticised for was written by someone else. But okay then 😂

Btw OP if you incorrectly attribute a post to someone it is good manners to apologise.

Ok.

Why don’t you start a thread on it and debate with everyone whether it should be a priority right at this time or not.

Rather than continuing this direction on this thread where you have made some unfounded and slyly indirect claims about Kellie Jay.

I am not sure how many people and how many times you can ignore telling you that your posts are coming across as dishonest now.

I was quoting Tabasco007's post at 7.35

No.
Demanding one particular British woman make it her top priority and smearing her as a right wing antiabortionist when she doesn’t is the stupid bit. Whether that phenomenon is confined to Brighton or not I could not say.

Prioritising abortion being a woman's human right is a bubble of stupidity hey?

I agree this feminism board has got very weird.

The Brighton bubble of stupidity.

They don’t realise that no one outside it is nodding along.

Is it her TOP priority?

Sappho’s been swallowing pre-digested American opinions, methinks.

Stella Creasy is doing some work to try and make abortion a human right in the UK. At the moment it is technically a criminal offense.

I don't agree with SC on a lot of things but I do on that. Abortion rights are fragile. I can see why she has made it a priority.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/why-right-abortion-doesnt-actually-exist-britain/

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Do you know anything about our abortion laws at all? Our laws were made via the Parliamentary Act, not a court ruling.

Completely different scenario to Roe V Wade, which was based on the constitutional right to privacy and was always in danger because the government didn’t enshrined it in law via a vote in the House and Senate.

Plus the UKs far more comprehensive welfare system means that abortion and free contraception saves our government absolutely shit loads in not financially supporting unwanted children.

The US federal government doesn’t have the same obligations.

It’s beyond bonkers to say that a UK based feminist should make abortion her TOP priority - the only reason I can come up with for anyone to believe it should be our top priority is American cultural imperialism.

There is a huge and significant difference between the abortion law in the UK and the lack of abortion laws in the USA.

This is actually a very far reach.

Again, overturning abortion law is not what Kellie Jay Keen is working towards at all.

Your continued portrayal of what Kellie Jay has said seems very dishonest now.

Can anyone explain to me why a UK feminist WOULD make abortion her number one priority in 2023?

Roe v Wade being overturned.

It's naive to think similar couldn't happen in the UK.

At this stage, I find the machinations of this feminist group to be increasingly bizarre and getting even more transparent each week.

I can’t see why any UK feminist would make abortion a priority?

Perhaps in NI where the law change has happened but the actual services aren’t yet properly in place!

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-to-commission-abortion-services-in-northern-ireland

But in the other 3 nations of the union?

In recent times we’ve had a failed attempt at abortion restriction from a disability rights angle:

amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/25/heidi-crowter-woman-downs-syndrome-loses-court-of-appeal-abortion-law-case

And we’ve made the emergency pandemic law change re: early medical abortions permanent:

www.gov.uk/government/news/at-home-early-medical-abortions-made-permanent-in-england-and-wales

Abortion isn’t a contested political topic here because unlike American we established a reasonable middle ground a long time ago.

Any subsequent changes are just tinkering based on technological advance.

On paper our system sounds like a pain in the arse (2 doctors signatures) in practice the 2 doctors are often in neighbouring offices on a single corridor. It’s free, legal and safe, pretty much on demand in the earlier stages and significant-reasons-only in the later stages.

Plus have a carve out for doctors with religious objections so there is no massive religious debate about it (I’d prefer it if those doctors didn’t become OBGYN specialists and instead picked an area where it’s unlikely to come up, purely the sake of women who need a quick intervention for emergency reasons but I can’t see a workable way to write that into law in a tolerant and democratic society).

Can anyone explain to me why a UK feminist WOULD make abortion her number one priority in 2023? Obvs we always need to be alert to potential roll backs but it’s hardly likely now when all the recent changes have been towards more access rather than less (even with a Tory government in power)?

Jesus how many more times are you going to post that same screenshot?

You are completely obsessed by KJK. You really need to get some sort of help for this.

”I read that as meaning she would prefer to live in a right wing society where abortion was illegal if it meant kids could not access puberty blockers and surgery.”

You can interpret it anyway you wish. It doesn’t mean that your rather polarised interpretation is correct.

And it doesn’t make her any more right wing or any more ‘anti abortion’! She is also not responsible for the very poor law making of the current and past governments of the USA.

“She is entitled to her option but lots of women would feel horrified to live in a right wing society where abortion was illegal.”

To repeat what has been said repeatedly on other threads, she is talking about her priorities. She is not actively campaigning to make abortion illegal, she is not campaigning for right wing governments to come to power.

There is, however, a very obvious attempt by a group of Brighton feminists to keep their own bad faith interpretations of anything that Kellie Jay says active in the public domain. Has that sin page come down yet?

'Once we can.....'
What did KJK go on to say in that tweet and why has it been cut out?