It was ‘tracing paper’ bog roll at my school - bad enough for wiping with but also completely useless for folding up for use as an emergency stopgap for sanpro 😬

Yeah, it's a shame that basic and essential hygiene product can be politicised.

I remember our school had those awful dispensers that would only allow you to pull out 1 or 2 sheets of the roll at a time. You'd spend ages trying to get enough out to wipe properly and it would tear like confetti so you'd end up wasting more in the long run.

it would probably be best if schools could just bulkbuy the sanpro with their loo roll rather than create endless busy work for middle class poverty tourists.

TBF it’s not always much better when it comes to loo roll - my eldest kid used to go to a London primary where they had to ask for the loo roll at the office and then wear it round their neck on a string on the way to the loo and back… funnily enough he wasn’t there long.

I don't think I agree with your interpretation of her intent madamcholet.

Her tweet had a screenshot where someone commented period products being expensive to buy next to a screenshot of some 55p pads. (The full context being that they were expensive to buy so it would be a problem for some if free products were withdrawn from schools).

I agree that the contracts for supplying these items can be wasteful, but by that token should we be sending kids into school with their own roll of loo paper and soap as they are cheap to buy in the shops?

I tried to find out the outcome of that case fairly recently and couldn’t find a thing - presume she was denied as that is the usual legal position in this country (my daughter has a whole ovary in the deep freeze and we were told at the time it would be destroyed on her death or when she, after becoming a legal adult, decides she doesn’t want it stored anymore, whichever comes first.

We had a long thread on it at the time and the mother came across as deeply weird - perhaps her desire for a grandchild born posthumously to her son would be somewhat understandable if the son was an only child but IIRC he was one of 6 and one of his older sisters was heavily pregnant with a grandchild at the time of the court case.

If you look at the tweet I linked from last August you can see that Maya was reference tweets she’d Maude two years earlier so clearly this is something she has paid a lot of time and attention to over a long period (pun unintended).

Sloppy of her to tweet today without linking to her prior commentary because todays tweet is way too easy to misinterpret without the background!

Just noticed the article is from August 2020, glad I didn't start a thread.

That's from last August, and if that is her point then she should have actually said that in her tweet today.

The 2nd linked tweet is better, more nuanced.

While on the thread for the first tweet I found a link to this article. Woman want to be able to use her son's sperm to create a surrogate gestated grandchild. Her son was a transwoman and died of unknown or undisclosed causes aged 16. Sounds tragic and grim.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/mother-louise-anderson-legal-fight-save-dead-transgender-daughters-sperm-scotland?CMP=share_btn_tw

Sorry, yes.

Bearing in mind the article is about the removal of free period products in schoos... 55p may as well be £55 if you are a 12 year old girl with no access to money or the means to get to a shop that might sell them.

That's not even getting into the wider conversation about period poverty as a whole.

It's just really disappointing that a woman who has benefited from the financial support of other women can come out with something like this.

Wow, that's really disappointing. How can she believe that period poverty is not a 'thing' in the UK? It absolutely is and always has been. Growing up, I had no mother to help me and no one else seemed to even think about my needs. I had no advice, help or money and had to scrabble together whatever I could because I was too ashamed and scared to ask for help.

Although actually, if it’s this tweet then I think she’s got a point re: spending public funds on period poverty orgs and ambassadors

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1560167387860795397

better to tackle poverty overall whilst ensuring sanpro is available free to girls in school/youth projects/wherever teen girls are reachable rather than create new ways to employ middle class poverty tourist types.

I consider myself well sheltered from the realities of life that some people face, but even I've experienced period poverty as a student living away from home. There were times I didn't go to college because I didn't have the money for tampons or towels and the toilet paper in college wouldn't suffice to stuff my knickers with.

Is it this tweet?

twitter.com/MForstater/status/1654387774068277248?s=20

Period poverty is definitely a thing - I’ve personally met a girl who tries to eek out a cheap packet of towels beyond the point of reasonableness because the family budget only allows for one cheap pack a month per girl (and teen periods can be ridiculously heavy).
A woman I know who is a foster carer for teens from extremely difficult backgrounds told me she’s encountered sisters who had resorted to using towelling sports socks as reusable sanitary towels.

Hopefully Maya will revise her view after hearing some real-life stories from people who are less economically well-sheltered from the realities of poverty.

What did Maya Forstater say about period poverty? I could tell her a thing or 300 about the issue.

Has anyone told @ArabellaScott ? I think it was her? It only bloody worked, kind of. You called (I think it was you) and he's here, kind of.

Those comments about the coronation...just adorable.

Must say I'm pretty disappointed with Maya Forstater and her stance against period poverty 😞

A woman who has benefited from the generosity of other women, some of whom are not as financially well off, showing disbelief that period poverty is a genuine thing for some women and girls.

Shameful.

https://themusic.com.au/news/nick-cave-defends-attending-king-charles-coronation/sQ0PpaSnpqk/03-05-23

‘deranged but cute’

Dying! That’s awesome. Welcome to the Dark Side Mr Cave, we always suspected you’d belong here!

Did you see NC’s argument for why he is attending the coronation? It’s fucking brilliant…

OMG!!!

https://twitter.com/RosieKayK2CO/status/1654410887598407680?s=20

Many metrics and thresholds in medicine, including ideal body weight, alcohol clearance rates, kidney function and risk of cardiovascular disease vary by gender.

No they fucking don't, they vary by sex! Why is this so hard for the Guardian to say?

Over on the transgenderUK sub Reddit the early response to this article is ‘Fuck the Guardian’

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/138blo6/trans_gap_project/

A certain subset of male transitioners aren’t going to like this ONE BIT.

But then, it’s the female transitioners who are likely to be most affected by the lack of data (due to testosterone having more dangerous side effects and due to having a female reproductive system) so your middle aged three letter acronym male has less to lose.

There's this women's housing association with a fabulous logo:

womenspioneer.co.uk/about-us/