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Women's rights general conversations - Thread 4

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Kucinghitam · 09/03/2023 09:19

Continuation of Thread 3.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions, grr"- that sort of thing).

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MavisMcMinty · 27/03/2023 17:15

JHB is vile.

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 16:21

duc748 · 27/03/2023 15:29

Julia Hartley Brewer is an appalling woman. Just because I share the same view as her on one bloody topic, I am still to free to regard her in the same contempt I hold Tommy Robinson.

No she's not. You may not like her but that's on you, not her.

CLearly people have learned nothing from this weekend.

Stop monstering women!

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Kucinghitam · 27/03/2023 15:52

I think (IMO) there's an important point here, which is that real grown-ups (which I believe all of us on this thread are) understand that people can agree on some things and fervently disagree on other things, and that's life.

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/03/2023 15:33

It’s a free country 🤷‍♀️

(supposedly)

duc748 · 27/03/2023 15:29

Julia Hartley Brewer is an appalling woman. Just because I share the same view as her on one bloody topic, I am still to free to regard her in the same contempt I hold Tommy Robinson.

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 15:06

(Apologies for misunderstanding, not for what I said, which is correct.)

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 15:04

Oh! Apologies if that's so!

dunBle · 27/03/2023 14:59

I think @SinnerBoy was being sarky @beastlyslumber

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 14:57

Julia Hartley Brewer is not an odious or any kind of racist.

Exactly the same misogynistic slander used against KJK to try to shut her up.

JHB is a centrist who fights for women's rights.

SinnerBoy · 27/03/2023 14:18

On Andrew Doyle, its a tragedy that it can only be said on GBeebies. Likewise, from the odious racist, Julia Hartley-Brewer.

Winterborne74 · 27/03/2023 12:57

Elly Arrow is always worth reading. Until now I’d been oblivious to the concept of a megabrothel.

https://twitter.com/ellyarrow/status/1633845351328407555?s=61&t=vrfh73NvYySozkuIkLckQw

This is a description of a proposed brothel in Amsterdam from a linked article in the thread.

The proposed erotic enter will have 100 available spaces for sex workers, regardless of their gender or sexual orientation. The facility will also include space for social services and healthcare, security, and other hospitality, entertainment, education and cultural organizations. The city also said in the past that it wants sex workers to have a more professional work environment, including break rooms and safer access.

Truly state regulated and window-dressed exploitation on an industrial scale.

https://twitter.com/ellyarrow/status/1633845351328407555?s=61&t=vrfh73NvYySozkuIkLckQw

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Kucinghitam · 27/03/2023 11:12

Winterborne74 · 26/03/2023 22:12

Good concentrated Andrew Doyle summary of Auckland events:

https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/1640081342669938688?s=61&t=vrfh73NvYySozkuIkLckQw

I enjoyed that, but of course that is merely confirmation of how Bad People I am. Nobody who is Good People would even click on that link, because purity.

Much as I enjoyed Dennis' thread, I fear he is wrong - most people simply won't get to hear about any of <waves hands> This Topic in an honest unbiased way, because most of the media/institutions/politics are complicit. (See Doyle's discussion of NZ media pious fraud). Amongst people who do know about This Topic, I'm not sure you'll find a single TRSOHer who would condemn events - I'd expect no more than a mealy-mouthed "both sides" "strong emotions" at best, and more likely triumphant delight but delicately expressed for plausible deniability.

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Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 00:40

NotDrowningJustCrowing · 27/03/2023 00:26

I hope that Dennis Noel Kavanagh is right but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better because far too much of the media hasn't got it yet and as long as they continue to defend the indefensible then there is still a lot of danger. I believe that we're at the beginning of the end, at least I hope we are, but the closer we get to the end the more violent the domestic terrorists get.

I'm with you. Unfortunately the future is going to feature a lot more violence before everyone wakes the fuck up. I'm not even sure one woman ending up dead whilst just trying to speak about women or meet with other women will do it.

I'm convinced some of the protesters are unhinged enough to go for the more nuclear wipe out loads in one go option.

NotDrowningJustCrowing · 27/03/2023 00:31

I might have a look at Stonewall on Twitter tomorrow to see if they're just having a weekend break or if they are really just going to ignore everything that went down in Auckland. My guess is the latter.

NotDrowningJustCrowing · 27/03/2023 00:26

I hope that Dennis Noel Kavanagh is right but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better because far too much of the media hasn't got it yet and as long as they continue to defend the indefensible then there is still a lot of danger. I believe that we're at the beginning of the end, at least I hope we are, but the closer we get to the end the more violent the domestic terrorists get.

StephanieSuperpowers · 26/03/2023 19:45

That helped. Last sting of a dying wasp. Hopefully.

MavisMcMinty · 26/03/2023 19:21

…not least in me!

MavisMcMinty · 26/03/2023 19:20

Oh yes, thanks for that, the last couple of months have felt like something has turned.

DameMaud · 26/03/2023 19:02

Tricyrtis2022 · 26/03/2023 18:53

This, by Dennis Noel Kavanagh, is very good indeed. Worth a read if you feel a bit down.

Thanks for this!

Tricyrtis2022 · 26/03/2023 18:53

This, by Dennis Noel Kavanagh, is very good indeed. Worth a read if you feel a bit down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1640035412453257221

beastlyslumber · 26/03/2023 07:55

I'm not sure why KJK would want to go to Glastonbury? Maybe just stop reading the Guardian.

IcakethereforeIam · 26/03/2023 00:37

Just want to leave this here for your consideration

https://www.theguardian.com/info/2023/mar/18/nominate-a-friend-to-go-to-glastonbury-festival-2023

I've done nothing with it yet, but I'm very tempted to nominate KJK and ask that you all do too. Of course the Guardian won't give the prize to her (and I'm not sure she'd want it) but it would be a nice show of support for Posey and a fuck you to the G. You're supposed to have the permission of the nominated person too. What do you think?

Nominate a friend to go to Glastonbury Festival 2023

Do you know someone who deserves the chance to go to one of the world’s most iconic festivals?

https://www.theguardian.com/info/2023/mar/18/nominate-a-friend-to-go-to-glastonbury-festival-2023

duc748 · 25/03/2023 21:01

A harrowing read indeed. How scary must it have been for that poor woman, for all of them?

bignosebignose · 25/03/2023 20:20

NotDrowningJustCrowing · 25/03/2023 18:15

I'd like to bring that logic to other crimes. "Yes officer, I did punch him in the face whilst holding my keys between my fingers but it wasn't so much a punch as his face being in the way of my punchy hand and anyway, I didn't mean to cause any pain, so, you know, I'm innocent."

The Bart and Lisa (and Homer) defence:

If You Get Hit, It's Your Own Fault (The Simpsons)

From season 6 episode 8: Lisa on Ice

https://youtu.be/9ZSoJDUD_bU