Women's rights general conversations - Thread 4

The thing with all the nitpicking about women...

I'm a very flawed person. My view on some things make no sense to others but make perfect sense to me, for reasons that I may not be willing to divulge to the person I'm talking to.

If someone was to judge me and dismiss me on my views on just some things then they would be missing out on the other 80% of me which is, in my narcissistic opinion, absolutely bloody amazing. So they'd be cutting off their noses to spite their faces!

Okay, JHB is probably off the Christmas card list, but I'm still going to enjoy her holding gender apologists feet to the fire.

Might flog her, but only on Vinted.

Is Dawn earlier or later now? Not that it matters in my house I'm still on old time in some rooms. I am currently telling the time by what the cats are trying to get me to feed them!

But yeah 11ish I should be conscious!

Dawn! I'm not getting up early just to flog a brexiteer.....how about 11-ish?

Flog her and hang her at dawn.

You know I'm fairly sure I remember which way i voted. But i couldn't stake my life on what my mood was on the actual day so... I'm not 100% sure if i was a remainer or a leaver! I should have listened...don't do drugs kids it's messes with your brain!

The other thread had come back with one I've asked for a link

Wise, cake. She's just not a lefty, plus she is awesome. Outspoken, disagreeable, confident - all the things they hate a woman to be.

I've heard JHB was beyond the pale, but bearing in mind the KJK slurs, I too would like some specifics.

The only thing I know about JHB outside of the clips that get shared here is that she was a Brexiteer.

Which I guess IS enough to get her branded as vile?

Not that I personally think Brexiteers are vile but it’s seemingly enough to get you demonised for over 5 years straight.

So far today I've seen posters call JHB awful things. I've yet to see one of those posters explain exactly what the problem is.

It's she a convicted paedophile?

It's she a signed up member of a hate group?

Is she a far far far right highly religious fruit loop?

What has this woman done? What views does she hold that are so abhorrent?

I didn't that there was a weekly #LetWomenSpeak at Speaker's Corner. I think I should try to go to one because clearly we need bigger numbers to show the TRAs that we do mean business and by business, I do mean that we will be heard, not that we want a fight with them. I'm happy to leave the threats of violence to them.

It's usually monthly. The next one at the moment is set for Sunday 30 April.

There's a thread about her interview with KJK where pp have talked more about this.

She's not hateful. She is just centre/right of centre.

Calling her vile and hateful is no different to calling KJK vile and hateful. It's monstering her, putting a target on her back. When her views are totally mainstream and legal.

Which dehumanisation then gives ammo to the women haters to use violence and silencing - who cares, she's vile, hateful, repugnant etc.

@NotDrowningJustCrowing what sort of hateful things does she write? I know next to nothing about this woman. I've seen some of her interviews and she takes no prisoners, but I'm unaware of her hateful stances.

I didn't that there was a weekly #LetWomenSpeak at Speaker's Corner. I think I should try to go to one because clearly we need bigger numbers to show the TRAs that we do mean business and by business, I do mean that we will be heard, not that we want a fight with them. I'm happy to leave the threats of violence to them.

Genuine question. Why is it misogynist to call Julia Hartley-Brewer "vile"? She is a deeply unpleasant human being which has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with the sort of hateful stuff she writes. I'd say the same about Rob Liddle, for example. I see them as two peas in the same pod, willing to make money out of writing hateful things that they may or may not believe in. Therein lies a problem. If you write hateful stuff often enough, even if you don't truly believe it yourself - which I have no way of knowing - then that rubs off on you and becomes an integral part of who you are.

There are a number of men and women who work as alleged journalists or columnists who are a stain on humanity and it has to do with what they write and not what gender they are. I'm glad that she's not supporting the TRAs, although I'd be gobsmacked if she was, but I can't think of anything else I've ever agreed with her on and I can think of times when I wish she'd learned from Ronan Keating that sometimes, you say it best, when you say nothing at all.

As various people have mentioned, why, when there were apparently genuine neo-Nazis to go after in Australia, did the RSOH 'anti- fascists' (sic) go after women instead?

A cynical person might conclude that they were more misogynistic than anti-fascist.

That’s horrendous. It’s getting almost biblical when you see a physical demonstration of so much hate directed against a single woman. Remind me which is the side of hate and which of love again? Which side is advancing civil rights and which side opposing them?

Yes, I actually think the undeniable proof coming out that it wasn't what so much of the media and opinion leaders are claiming is making self identified morally righteous people double down as their cognitive dissonance is pierced, and their beliefs are shaken up. I've noticed this when other similar things have happened.

There’s the Women’s Rights Network. Unfortunately there’s not yet a group in my area and I don’t have the time, energy or skills to start one although they are very keen to get new volunteers:

https://www.womensrights.network/

I'm always going to call out misogyny, Mavis. Whether it comes from you or anyone else.

Does anyone have any links to women’s rights groups nationally we can join? I’m googling but not getting much. I’m sharing as much content as I can online but it would be great to talk to people in real life.

Please ignore me in future, @beastlyslumber, and I’ll do the same for you.

No, she's not. She's a woman you dislike.

Work out the difference, because otherwise you are just a hater. And we've seen where that leads.

That’s horrendous. It’s getting almost biblical when you see a physical demonstration of so much hate directed against a single woman. Remind me which is the side of hate and which of love again? Which side is advancing civil rights and which side opposing them?

I don't agree with JHB on many things, but she's excellent on this issue, she always gets right to the heart of it.

Came to post this completely terrifying overhead footage from Auckland. Anyone who says about what happened "it was just some soup" is not someone I consider a moral person. I wouldn't wish anyone in the middle of that violent mob.

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