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Women's rights general conversations - Thread 4

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Kucinghitam · 09/03/2023 09:19

Continuation of Thread 3.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions, grr"- that sort of thing).

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Imarealwoman · 01/04/2023 21:27

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Please read the comments for light entertainment. Irish Minister for children Roderic O Gorman tweeted "there's no lgb without the t" yesterday. The lgb community handed him his balls on a plate. The comments are fantastic (he's a gay man by the way, should know his constituicy better)

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

StephanieSuperpowers · 01/04/2023 21:26

Sometimes I feel like we just need to withdraw from public life and let the chips fall.

ExiledElsie · 01/04/2023 21:22

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 01/04/2023 21:14

28 countries make joint statement to the UN that self-ID is a human rights standard: https://twitter.com/YPinfo101/status/1642210244322377729?

We're fucked. Not going to stop fighting, but they are really just rolling back our rights.

duc748 · 01/04/2023 21:22

That's bleak, Bint.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 01/04/2023 21:14

28 countries make joint statement to the UN that self-ID is a human rights standard: https://twitter.com/YPinfo101/status/1642210244322377729?

https://twitter.com/YPinfo101/status/1642210244322377729

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 16:44

how pigculiar!

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 16:10

Now it's just getting silly

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beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 16:01

pigly words

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 15:48

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 14:47

Also POEMS!

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Plentiful pockets for pies and poems!

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 14:47

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 14:36

Pockets for pies!

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Also POEMS!

Tricyrtis2022 · 01/04/2023 14:43

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 14:36

Pockets for pies!

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Better and better!

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 14:36

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 14:32

PIES 🥧

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Pockets for pies!

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 14:32

Tricyrtis2022 · 01/04/2023 11:45

Woman joke:

Q. What do women want that begins with a 'P' and ends with an 'S'?

A. Pockets!

PIES 🥧

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 14:26

UnfortunatePoster · 01/04/2023 14:22

I got a new top delivered yesterday, and discovered it has pockets when I tried it on. Husband was slightly bemused by me delightedly prancing round the kitchen going "Look, pockets!!!".

It's the little things that matter! Every item of clothing should come with pockets. Lots of pockets!

UnfortunatePoster · 01/04/2023 14:22

I got a new top delivered yesterday, and discovered it has pockets when I tried it on. Husband was slightly bemused by me delightedly prancing round the kitchen going "Look, pockets!!!".

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2023 14:15

Tricyrtis2022 · 01/04/2023 11:45

Woman joke:

Q. What do women want that begins with a 'P' and ends with an 'S'?

A. Pockets!

😁

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Tricyrtis2022 · 01/04/2023 11:45

Woman joke:

Q. What do women want that begins with a 'P' and ends with an 'S'?

A. Pockets!

AlisonDonut · 01/04/2023 10:31

SinnerBoy · 31/03/2023 09:07

There's always room for a quirky cat! I'll read Squeaky's link later, there's a four letter word preventing me at present. Starts with w, ends with k.

Yes, work!

That is such a boy joke!

beastlyslumber · 01/04/2023 10:16

Brilliant, thanks @angelico53 I just made it up (inasmuch as anyone makes things up.) I thought it sounded Shakespearian.

angelico53 · 01/04/2023 09:50

I've just been down a fascinating rabbit hole, thanks to the username @beastlyslumber .

I was trying to think where I might have seen the name/words and the closest I could get was "sunk in hoggish slumber", which I remembered from a P G Wodehouse book. I found this terrific site about Wodehouse:

https://www.madameulalie.org/index.html

.. and it turns out to originate in R L Stephenson (the "hoggish", not the "beastly"). But that site is remarkable if you like PGW. There's a link to a resource for all the biblical refs in his work too, which I especially like. I love Wodehouse's kindly clerics, trading and correcting bible quotes, deferring sadly to domineering wives and bishops and getting stoned on Mulliner's Buck-U-Uppo.

Madame Eulalie: The Early Works of P. G. Wodehouse

An archive of the early works of P. G. Wodehouse, with research notes and commentary

https://www.madameulalie.org/index.html

beastlyslumber · 31/03/2023 12:58

Excellent comment @CryptoFascistMadameCholet .

I personally would like to see a reduction in immigration numbers overall, given the pressure on resources in Kent and other places, and the effects on the safety of women and children when large numbers of young males are coming in from places where women are second class citizens. Something we've discussed at length in other threads.

However, I do think the UK needs to figure out what the hell it's doing and play its part in both taking in an appropriate number of asylum seekers and keeping them safe and out of the channel.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:57

Systems definitely need reform.

People traffickers need to be prosecuted.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 31/03/2023 12:49

We need policies and laws that dissuade this route of entry because it’s really fucking unsafe

Whereas what we have is policies and laws that make it the only route, because they've closed all the others for anyone in a refugee/asylum type situation. The French government has repeatedly offered processing centres on their side of the channel and been rejected. We refuse (with some very limited exceptions from Ukraine) to allow anyone to apply at embassies or consulates in other countries. We leave one option and then say people are wrong to use it.

As for why they don't stay in France or another European country ... well, for a start, most do. Even before the current clampdowns the UK was one of the least popular countries for refugees and asylum seekers - about no. 17 among EU countries IIRC. (Tiny proportions actually come to Europe at all.)

Of the few that do come, some have no choice. If you pay a people trafficker, you end up where they choose - which may well not be where they promised - or you end up dead.

Others come because they speak English, not French, or because they already have families or friends here who can give them a place to stay and help them navigate the system and find work.

And a few deluded souls still come because they don't feel safe in France or Belgium where they are repeatedly attacked by the police and for some reason they actually think we're a kind, welcoming country that will treat them better. Poor sods.

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