“For some autistics”

nice.

It's classic mission creep isn't it?

Be reassured, I was being facetious, and was going to say so. But could not think of the word.

My work menopause policy tied itself in knots to avoid using the word 'woman ' it was all menopausal person, when I suggested we could say 'women and' I got told they would replace the word woman with colleague, which totally missed the point.

Yes, they know it implies that there is a connection between "women" and being female. And they probably are being told that's exclusionary.

cis sugar please. Or better still a whole phrase of burble that hides the offending word altogether.

You don't see this pandering the minority with anything else. I'm diabetic and should be very completely totally offended to see recipes for cake with sugar as an ingredient. How dare they not change it to canderel for me and my diabetic comrades!

Its a miracle they said 'women and..'

My work menopause policy tied itself in knots to avoid using the word 'woman ' it was all menopausal person, when I suggested we could say 'women and' I got told they would replace the word woman with colleague, which totally missed the point.

I used to be a biology teacher. This is ridiculous. It is not fair on anyone to think that anyone else other than women can give birth. We are defined by our biology and at no time is that more important than giving birth.

instead of women and birthing people why not:

Women and
‘the women who are thinking they are really something else?’

Oops just realised what your saying...I'm a muppet!

Well he might have had gas and air but I can 100% assure you he wasn't pushing a baby out of his penis, therefore he wasn't giving birth, therefore he wasn't birthing.
Although I'm pretty sure your being facetious, at least I hope you are😂😬

Problem with woman and birthing people is it’s a mouthful and it will inevitably at some point get shorted to birthing people as of course that’s more inclusive. Possibly not in official documents but in passing, birthing people will be used more. WABP is already used a lot on course slides etc.
I do feedback a lot at training days etc and am militant in only using women in my own practice. I’m going to be braver though as we have a new mandatory question about it on our booking forms which a) is horribly worded and b) mandatory with no option to decline to answer. Might start a separate thread about it.

Didn't Prince Harry claim to have accessed the gas and air when his son was born.

There.....birthing person.

I thought I'd seen that it was two, but as I couldn't find any figures, didn't want to give fodder to any hovering TROSH stormtroopers...

Two apparently. We all have to bend to two. I have never seen an update on this from Feb 2021:

"This strained, clumsy, impractical lexicon is meant to cater instead to the tiny number of natal females who transition to male socially but not medically and give birth. As of 2017, the UK had two such people."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d1157740-6d57-11eb-ba86-e516f9df6e0a?shareToken=eb006a8cab50ab4c58ae1462da87e067

Births in the UK:

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthsummarytablesenglandandwales/2021

There were 624,828 live births in England and Wales in 2021, an increase of 1.8% from 613,936 in 2020, but still below the 2019 figure (640,370)

I think that there have been very few "transman" pregnancies here. Why such a change, to accommodate such a tiny fraction of a percent of mothers, at the expense of the 99.9997% ?

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How many transmen are actually giving birth each year anyway? Apparently in 2019 it was 22.

Apparently, that's in Australia; I can't find any useful figures for Britain.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7329731/Medicare-data-shows-22-transgender-men-gave-birth-year-228-past-decade.html

The Australian government's Medicare agency revealed 22 transgender men gave birth during the past financial year. This made them among the 228 who had been pregnant during the past decade.

I saw it on BBC breakfast they also mentioned parents when they meant mothers ! Bloody disgraceful

Some women also seem to find it difficult that they have a sex and that there is a word for that sex. It seems to be because sex based language is used in so many rich ways to create other kinds of meaning in conversation/writing/society/culture (all that gendered stuff) that they seem either to have forgotten that all those uses and meanings can only exist and be meaningful because of the shared understanding that women and man refer to sex classes, or to be unable to separate all those other uses of the words from when it is used for its simple core meaning of which reproductive class you fall in.

Well I was trying to think of a more formal way of describing “convoluted word salad”.

Amen

You may have dysphoria, you may not conform to gender stereotypes.

You remain the sex you were born and always will.

If someone needs help coming to terms with reality, then let's offer them that support instead of trying to pretend we can bend reality around them.

It's not even the phrased definition of the noun, unfortunately. That would be "adult human female".

Why are we avoiding stating plain fact and truth for females re female only healthcare?

Because males get upset that it reminds them that they are not in fact female.

Its time they got over this. Females cannot be bent into endlessly weirder shapes in the name of stroking male egos, and male people have a job to do a bit of bloody reciprocation in all this kindness and consideration.

It is concerning what will happen to teen pregnancy rates for children who've been taught that sex is changeable and optional and arbitrary.

Sorry, I should have said if you were born with a vagina you probably have a uterus

It does make me laugh that you're tripping yourself up with your own solution aseriesofstillimages

Just say woman