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Most stupid centring of men on national women's day

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MollochTheCorrupter · 08/03/2023 19:27

What's the most stupid centring of men you've seen on national women's day. This particularly annoyed me as it is literally centering men with both the messaging and the framing of the male individual.

I haven't got the guts to tell the person that posted it on social media they're an idiot, so will have to content myself with venting here.

It's particularly depressing because she's a bloody teacher and supposedly an intelligent person.

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teawamutu · 14/03/2023 20:51

Delphinium20 · 14/03/2023 18:12

Ugh...this one came through from a friend of a friend who had a female friend post it on their social. It combines sexualization and infantilization to represent *women. Nice. How 'respectful'.

Fuck that pink, frilly shit.

They identify as us, but never with us.

MollochTheCorrupter · 14/03/2023 19:58

Disturbing but not surprising imagery

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StephanieSuperpowers · 14/03/2023 18:14

Delphinium20 · 14/03/2023 18:12

Ugh...this one came through from a friend of a friend who had a female friend post it on their social. It combines sexualization and infantilization to represent *women. Nice. How 'respectful'.

I am on board with this. I would like to see trans women being respectful towards women. A very welcome sentiment.

Delphinium20 · 14/03/2023 18:12

Ugh...this one came through from a friend of a friend who had a female friend post it on their social. It combines sexualization and infantilization to represent *women. Nice. How 'respectful'.

DevilinaCardigan · 14/03/2023 14:19

What!?! Still no science. It's almost as if there isn't any...

BezMills · 13/03/2023 08:33

It's such a great advert isn't it?

Come over here, attempt to patronise highly educated women about 'the science' and then come up with snake-eyes when asked to produce 'the science'.

We see you, and so does everybody else.

Logicoutofthewindow · 13/03/2023 06:14

TauroLomo · 08/03/2023 20:30

A man in a dress, does not a woman make!

Explain to me @ElonsMusky why it's ok to self ID as a woman but if I were to walk out in public with black face saying I identify as a black woman, I'd be lynched? Could it possibly be because its wrong, offensive, ridiculous and bordering mentally unstable to do so? Ok great. Now justify trans women saying they ARE women to me...

This.

It's all about the men that 'feel' they are women. But biologically they aren't and will never be just like if I 'feel' like a giraffe I won't actually be one.

Delphinium20 · 13/03/2023 01:50

drhf · 08/03/2023 22:42

My nomination is a big employer which invited two men (not trans women - or trans men - just men-identified men) as its in-house IWD speakers today.

When someone senior (not me) questioned this decision, the EDI team stood their ground and claimed there is "research" to show the best way to promote "gender equality" is for men to do it. Um... Citation needed?

That's an actual punchline to a joke Dave Chapelle makes about how he should be in charge of the women's movement!!

JanesLittleGirl · 12/03/2023 22:28

SidewaysOtter · 12/03/2023 22:22

<checks watch>

Has this here science arrived yet?

Yes but it isn't the same as old science so only "new scientists" can see it.

SidewaysOtter · 12/03/2023 22:22

<checks watch>

Has this here science arrived yet?

FriendofJoanne · 12/03/2023 22:09

@Boiledbeetle the snarky, sarky and very entertaining Dennis Kavanagh has referred to TRAs as The Borg for a while.

hahaha they try to be but resistance is proving very fruitful - I think we’re getting there

JudgyVonHolierThanThou · 12/03/2023 19:23

Have you got anything of any credibility to say @ElonsMusky?

I would love nothing more than to be convinced that you’re right and I’m wrong.

Because I’m actually really, really sick of feeling so angry and impotent about all of this.

Boiledbeetle · 12/03/2023 19:14

nilsmousehammer · 12/03/2023 17:20

The sexism makes it not weird at all. They've become VIP males with double the privilege, and this movement snatch and grabs whatever it wants and breaks it down for parts without the faintest conscience.

I read that and feel the urge to say

We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

Star Trek Borg GIF
nepeta · 12/03/2023 17:37

nilsmousehammer · 12/03/2023 17:20

The sexism makes it not weird at all. They've become VIP males with double the privilege, and this movement snatch and grabs whatever it wants and breaks it down for parts without the faintest conscience.

True. It was not pleasant to realise this, but the resistance is growing because people are realising this.

nilsmousehammer · 12/03/2023 17:20

The sexism makes it not weird at all. They've become VIP males with double the privilege, and this movement snatch and grabs whatever it wants and breaks it down for parts without the faintest conscience.

nepeta · 12/03/2023 17:12

So weird that trans women tend to get central roles in various women's organisations and women's
issues rather fast, are over-represented in top positions in feminist orgs compared to their population numbers etc., while trans men tend not to get much publicity at all (unless they give birth).

And then we now have womxn but we don't have mxn, and we have 'non-men' but not 'non-women'. Everyone can get a slice of the women category.

The more things change the more they stay the same. It's also clear in how women are now replaced by body functions (menstruators, birthers) or body parts (uterus-owners, individuals with cervix, vulva folk), while men are not replaced the same way (no ejaculators or impregnators, no penis-havers).

It is all wildly sexist.

BezMills · 12/03/2023 13:24

I have a mere BSc hons in Anatomy and quite often feel very underqualified on these threads. It has been coughty-cough years since I graduated, so I'd be very glad to read of any new developments in sexy science.
But alas despite a promising trailer, @ElonsMusky , so far there are none delivered.
You know what they say "science talks and bullshit walks".

SinnerBoy · 12/03/2023 13:00

ohfook · Today 11:26

The get into Newcastle Facebook page leading with a picture of Abigail Thorn for their list of 'inspirational women from the toon'.

They is a new one for me.

Redebs · 12/03/2023 11:31

GailBlancheViola · 11/03/2023 22:33

It was an absolute overload of nonsensical word salad, I have no idea after watching it what the fuck they were talking about or promoting.

That was absurd. Why are so many men telling me about needing to have equity?

I'm a woman. Tell me how you're going to respect women's needs. Tell me that you're aware of how you currently prevent women being safe, respected and valued.
And stop letting your male peers make it all about them, just because they wear a dress.

ohfook · 12/03/2023 11:26

The get into Newcastle Facebook page leading with a picture of Abigail Thorn for their list of 'inspirational women from the toon'.

Most stupid centring of men on national women's day
Redebs · 12/03/2023 11:20

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 09/03/2023 10:14

Jeremy Corbyn celebrating two drag queens at the Stonewall riots-for International Women’s Day.

That's not ok, Jeremy.
These are men. Drag is oppressive to women.

SinnerBoy · 12/03/2023 11:12

OneMorePlant · Today 05:55

It's been 4 days. Did I miss the science?

No, Musky came back for a quick snark. They realise that there is no science, of course, but expect us to agree, against the teeth of evidence and rationality.

lieselotte · 12/03/2023 11:07

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 09/03/2023 17:09

Corbyn's ignorant tweet about Marsha B was irksome, but Jess Philips including Ghey on the end of Karen Ingala Smith's Counting Dead Women really pissed me off.

Yes. We don't know why Brianna was killed. In any event I thought that list was about violence by men against women? Even if she was killed because she was mistakenly thought to be a woman, wasn't she killed by a boy and girl? It is a different sort of case entirely, even leaving out the possible trans motive.

not everyone on here is in the UK "hun" this is UK based site with a vast majority of UK-based users.

Boiledbeetle · 12/03/2023 11:02

OneMorePlant · 12/03/2023 05:55

It's been 4 days. Did I miss the science?

He's obviously triple checking the figures

Florissant · 12/03/2023 10:52

Musky is practicing the science of invisibility.