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Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.

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howmanybicycles · 08/03/2023 17:31

So happy that JKR has tweeted the petition to update the equalities act to make it clear that sex, not gender is a protected characteristic. Responses her tweet are full of the usual smoke and mirrors and mysgnynistic insult– just wanted to collate them to help me better see the tactics of those who seek to dismantle women's rights. Have I missed any?

  1. Trying to make out that JK Rowling is supporting the murder of a transgirl teen. She’s not and has never said anything which could be reasonably interpreted as that. It’s perfectly possible to imagine a society where transgirls use the facilities for their biological sex and aren’t murdered. It’s a travesty and a tragedy if anyone is murdered just for being trans identifying and JK Rowing very clearly agrees with that. We’ve spent years trying to work towards just such a society for gay men who are more at risk than heterosexual men. No-one blames women for not letting them into the ladies if bad things happen in the men’s.

  2. Pictures of transwomen asking what would happen if they went into the men’s. Firstly, most TW don’t pass outside of photos but also see above. Secondly, the TW are focusing on the signifiers of dress and hair and makeup but that’s not relevant to many. I don’t care what men wear, but their gait, girth, voice and adam’s apple etc. show them very clearly to be men. The problem here is male violence. If men have a problem with other males wearing dresses and make-up in their facilities then the men are the problem. You can want to wear these things and not be trans identifying so moving all the TW into the ladies doesn’t really solve the problem even if you ignore the dangers to women which this does.

  3. “You’ve already lost this battle so why are you still banging on about it?”. Would those misogynists have said that to the suffragettes. This particular comment is very clearly a ‘back in your box’ one.

  4. “you’re trying to force people to discriminate” – well that one’s just ridiculous. Keeping males out of female only spaces is clearly not discriminating!

  5. “You’d have to check genitals” – also clearly ridiculous. I guess that person has not heard of secondary sexual characteristics or is choosing to pretend they’ve not. “you’re making it such that all women have to produce ID to enter any female space” – same sort of nonsense really

  6. “some males do pass” yes but the vast majority don’t and if you let passing males in, you have to also let in ant other man who ‘feels like a woman’.

  7. “feminism is for all women”. Yes that’s the point. TW are men. If you want to dispute that, give us a definition of women which includes all those people who are women and all those people who feel like women and don’t rely on gender identity cos so many women don’t have one.

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IneedanewTV · 09/03/2023 09:00

Datun · 09/03/2023 08:18

So telling isn't it. The places where transactivism is most prevalent and overt are the areas with the most signatures.

I don't really get why every politician, everywhere, isn't all over it.

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Exactly what I thought. The red in the south east is Brighton. Says it all really

Datun · 09/03/2023 08:59

FrancescaContini · 09/03/2023 08:58

This is great news! JK pulled a blinder on IWD!

Impeccable timing.

FrancescaContini · 09/03/2023 08:58

This is great news! JK pulled a blinder on IWD!

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 08:55

98,332 signatures it's moving quick
98,338 signatures
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Datun · 09/03/2023 08:50

ErrolTheDragon · 09/03/2023 08:39

I guess a lot of this spate of votes is the more widely held, serious response to JKRs tweet.

Yes. Right below the petition tweet supporting female only rape crisis centres and domestic violence refuges, she writes

J.K. Rowling
The United Nations Population Fund estimates that during the Covid pandemic there have been an additional 31 million cases of domestic violence globally.

weightymatters73 · 09/03/2023 08:48

98271

Rainbowshit · 09/03/2023 08:42

98,209

ErrolTheDragon · 09/03/2023 08:39

I guess a lot of this spate of votes is the more widely held, serious response to JKRs tweet.

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 08:33

@Ourladycheesusedatum I'll book you in for screenshotting 101.

Can I just get your gender.....

98,110 signatures

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/03/2023 08:30

Boiledbeetle · 08/03/2023 21:59

Watching...why aren't you on screenshot duty????

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Errrrrr well ummm, I'm a tech thicko and have no idea how to. Yes that's right, I'm stupid. Every time I see like a parking thread or neighbour wars thread I wonder how the hell they took pictures AND edited it in less than 10 minutes. It would take me all day.

All that said 98077 at current moment.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/03/2023 08:26

This is the petition to sign
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 08:26

2000 left

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Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
SiobhanSharpe · 09/03/2023 08:23

Over 98,000 signatures. Looking great.

Datun · 09/03/2023 08:18

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 08:14

97,916 signatures

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So telling isn't it. The places where transactivism is most prevalent and overt are the areas with the most signatures.

I don't really get why every politician, everywhere, isn't all over it.

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 08:14

Coxspurplepippin · 09/03/2023 08:11

Does the darker red area on the south coast include Brighton? Surely not? Grin

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97,916 signatures

Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
Coxspurplepippin · 09/03/2023 08:11

willingtolearn · 08/03/2023 19:51

The map is interesting : petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=623243

Does the darker red area on the south coast include Brighton? Surely not? Grin

Clymene · 09/03/2023 08:11

97,890 now

Datun · 09/03/2023 08:09

BastardtheCat · 09/03/2023 05:11

Sorry if this has already been asked Datun, but what is the name of this Podcast?

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Terfing has given you the title there.

Apparently there are seven episodes. They've released four so far.

Really interesting and goes into a lot of background about the reaction to her books.

Clymene · 09/03/2023 08:02

It's gone up by another thousand since I took a look about 5.30 this morning. Very pleasing Smile

WhisperingAutistic · 09/03/2023 08:01

97,805!

Banoffeepie21 · 09/03/2023 07:57

Racing ahead now!

97757

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 07:34

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

2500 left to go

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HereForTheFreeLunch · 09/03/2023 07:10

I know the thread has moved on and I haven't RTFT but.... 10k in a day!
Go JKR!! 💜

SueVineer · 09/03/2023 05:23

Datun · 09/03/2023 00:14

Discrimination means unjust treatment which this would not be though.

Not exclusively it doesn't.

recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"

We discriminate all the time.

We discriminate against adults being taught in a primary school. I discriminate against all women in terms of my sexual orientation.

We discriminate against sex offenders being allowed to work with children.

What you can't have is discrimination based on sex, unless it's in certain situations.

It was mostly designed to stop women being disadvantaged!

But it was understood that there were situations under which you absolutely would discriminate. Sexual orientation being one of them. Which is another protected characteristic in law.

it's just that no one thought they would have to qualify the law to explain that rapists shouldn't be women's prisons, men competing in women's sports, or using female facilities.

That's why we need clarity.

Yip exactly. It is discrimination to say men can’t use women’s toilets but it shouldn’t be unlawful discrimination.and is entirely justified for reasons of privacy and safety.

SueVineer · 09/03/2023 05:19

Boymamabee · 08/03/2023 18:38

Does this apply to someone who’s obtained a gender recognition certificate? Just trying to understand.

If the equality act is updated to make clear its biological sex that’s the protected characteristic, a grc shouldn’t make any difference. If it isn’t, the haldane judgement broadly means men with a grc are legally women. This means we cannot keep them out of single sex spaces. That’s why the petition is so important

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