Get paid for drugged sex!

I am pretty sure this was the plotline for an episode of a US police/detective show some years ago.

The episode was about two men who had this fetish for having sex with their wives while they were unconscious, and the wives consented to it, but something went wrong. I can't remember whether one of the women died while drugged, or they partner-swapped without the women knowing, or something like that.

Could have been Castle, thinking about it. Or The Mentalist. It wasn't a hard cop show.

What did they say please?

Said with the clear knowledge it is something she would never entertain for herself - a useless, abuse enabler.

I watched the documentary. That's not quite what she said. Daily Mail strikes again.

I wasn't arguing that only right-wing people care about rape, I was arguing that one can see from this person's website that individuals and organisations will financially support anything as long as it goads the right. They don't actually care about how damaging, crazy or just plain valueless this person's contributions are, the whole point is to provoke a reaction and then shout 'bigot' at everyone who reacted.

For fuck's sake - it should be entered into law that anyone who is offering someone else (and let's face it, the "someone else" is almost always a woman) money for use of their bodies in any way should be done for coercive control - women who are financially vulnerable would be the ones who take up this "generous"'offer.

And I don't include just this, but prostitution, surrogacy etc.

Women's bodies are not a commodity.

What next?

Once you’ve fulfilled your fantasy of sex with an unconscious woman, what next? Do people really think that would be the end of it?

Why not just get a sex doll FFS.

I can’t think of anything worse than someone lying there not reciprocating or initiating anything.

This is basically men who want to rape and carry out any fantasies they wish no matter how sick or twisted or painful it may be but want ‘consent’ to do so.

We’ve gone from understanding consent and how if someone is intoxicated they cannot consent, to drugging them just for sexual purposes and that being consensual.

I actually think even the majority of men would agree that this is wrong.

I think it was more “this is attention-seeking clickbait” they were agreeing with…

Sleeping Beauty www.google.com/search?kgmid=/m/0gkhz30&hl=en-GB&q=Sleeping+Beauty&kgs=ae15efbaf508ffdb&shndl=17&source=sh/x/kp/osrp/2

Horrible film made in 2011 about this very thing.

It's not new

Right wing? Are you saying only right wingers would be outraged by the idea of women being raped (which is what this is).

What is worrying to me is the degree in which, in name of inclusivity, we allowed people from fringe groups to take over discussion about what family, gender and sexual relationships are for majority of population. Looking at her website & social media it is obvious she has nothing but contempt for people choosing 'heteronormative' relationships, and somehow BBC gives her platform to discuss it. No, I am effing not interested in what a butch queer non binary has to say about heterosexual relationships and I will never be.

Yes, he's the real victim here.

Said no sane person anywhere. I don't know how they sleep at night (drugs?), there's something missing in them.

It's depressing that it's women, all too often, who are pushing this.

Exactly!

I think they are saying oo women come grab some sex positive $¥€£ and be paid as an alive-expectant wank sock for money….
Or snuff movie genre.

Quoting "Andrea" Long Chu;

"...distilling femaleness to its barest essentials—an open mouth, an expectant asshole, blank eyes."

What a repulsive individual

On the BBC?! I'm so close to getting rid of my TV license. The thing is that because of this 'great idea' presented on the BBC a woman, especially a prostituted woman somewhere will be pressured into doing this. It's utterly sick.

This is just a logical progression of current anti-shame, sex positivity. Nothing is out of bounds or shameful as long as there is ‘consent’. Any fetish or kink is a private matter and anyone willing to indulge or supply ‘the goods’ ie. the body, body part, experience etc. is exercising their free will - damn it, in our fxxed up world it could be deemed an act of Feminism.

Coming soon to the BBC are ‘anti sex-shame’ campaigners like Reed Amber - she recently did a BBC Presenters course at Salford - and has featured in the Guardian Weekend Magazine. Her philosophy is that we should all be more educated and open about our kinks and fetishes. She hosts a podcast where she cheerily speaks about visiting a BDSM couple and being asphyxiated and made to cry - CNC (consensual non-consensual sex) and a tickle fetish are her own favourite things and she ‘monetises’ her tickle and foot fetishes via Only Fans and meet-ups.

She’s an immensely likeable woman and some of her content on mental health issues is great. But I am just aghast at the dissociation that goes on in her world. And that she then proselytises to her followers. She fully admits that she had early exposure to porn, but rather than examine how that may have impacted on her own sexuality and her mental health, she decides to perpetuate the idea that this kind of sexual freedom is ‘healthy’.

I'm only mentioning her, because this sex therapist seems to be from the same school and has also had her ideas helpfully broadcast by the BBC. And these ideas are seeping in to young women’s lives through relatively mainstream social media channels too. Reed was advertising Emma bed-in-a-box mattresses on her Instagram recently - complete with the strap-line “My bed is my safe space especially when it comes to pushing limits with kink”. Anything to sell a product.

And sex with a ‘consensually’ drugged woman is helping a man with a fetish, get what he wants and have no obstacle put in his way. And the woman is the willing ‘service provider’ just doing her job -‘sex work is work’.

Mainstream culture is buying into all of this and it’s terrifying.

God I hate it when lazy producers wheel out any old crank who spouts harmful blocks and besmirches the name of Psychotherapy. It's so damaging!

I hope she never volunteers. It'd be quite dangerous for her, I imagine. Oh, no wait, she probably meant other women.

Also advertises as ‘the fat therapist’……(sic)

previous statements seem to indicate a certain degree of .? Attention seeking? As well.

Nope.

This is a rape fetish. I think we should drug the men with the fetish so they're unconscious and can't rape anyone. Problem solved. No need to involve women in this.

Almost certain the BBC can edit stuff. They could have edited this out.

*Cosby as in Bill and not Crosby as in Bing obviously….

In an idyllic world no one would fantasize about sex with an unconscious person because in an idyllic world we'd all respect each other. Should some men offer to take performance inhibiting drugs and then allow other men beat them up?