Get paid for drugged sex!

Yes, you'd like to think that the BBC didn't do clickbaity stuff like this.

I'm going out on a limb to say that the BBC to this particular "therapist" precisely because she holds such (abhorrent) views.

Completely agree @Whatwouldscullydo.

It’s vile.

Completely agree with this.

Some people seem to have no ability to ever say 'No, this is not acceptable'. Just because someone wants to have sex with an unconscious woman, just because there might be a woman who is desperate enough for money to agree, does not mean it should be allowed. It's not mean, it's not prudish, it's not trying to spoil men's fun, it's just beyond the bounds of what should ever be allowed. Just NO!

Just because people do it, and just because there are some people desperate enough to agree to be paid to do it, doesn't mean it isn't exploitative and immoral.

People will sell kidneys if they're desperate enough, but that doesn't make it OK in a civilised society. The law is there to protect desperate, vulnerable people who could otherwise be exploited.

how is the therapist presented and why are they on the show?

I'm can't believe what I have just read. Absolutely vile

I just can't with this...

How is the solution that women agree to this. Rather than men look into why such disturbing shit gets them off.

When did mutually enjoyable consensual respectful sex become something so boring and vanilla that things have to escalate to being drugged and raped in the name of not kink shaming or whatever

I had a friend in my 20s who had worked as a sex worker in the field of very dark fantasies.

This friend would be "raped" whilst out walking late at night, very brutally, anally. The cost to do that to my friend was £500. This friend advertised this service online, plus other things, but this one always seemed the most severe.

Anyway, this person went through the ordeal of being raped in the park, after its finished the rapist leaves. Then meets them at the exit of the park and beats up my friend and takes the £500 back off of them.

My friend continued with sex work however this experience was incredibly traumatic and obviously my friend was actually raped, that was no role play.

It scares me to imagine anyone suggesting sex workers be even more vulnerable by being drugged.

The world is fucking terrifying.

Right, so that's exactly what she said.

The mail is just reporting it.

"Sonalee is a sought-after speaker who travels internationally to curate custom visual workshops that whisper to our change-making spirit and nourish our vision for a more just future."

I'll just leave that there and collect my eyes which have rolled out of my head and across the floor.

What's pretty distasteful is that this woman knows there is not such an idyllic world, and the reason for that is part of the power in such a scenario where one party is drugged and cannot resist.

She smears over legal issues of consent, ongoing consent in particular. There are useful idiots all over the world, but this woman is not one of them. I know it's in the DM, but she is using her status and expertise to smear over bodily autonomy and sexual consent. Those are rules needed to prevent victimisation of vulnerable people.

Probably to some degree her job is also a manifestation of her gratification about sex.

Correct. They are spouting outrageous shite for clout, ie the kool-aid drinkers will clap their tiny hands with glee at how brave and stunning they are while the normies, left and right and in between, who register their existence will suffer a prolonged w…t…fff moment, possibly culminating in horror, rage and/or confusion.

The world has gone fucking mad.

Repulsive.

What do you mean? I just watched the clip whilst reading the DM quote. It is what she said, word for word.

I haven't seen the documentary but I did see the video of the relevant section circulating online a few days ago. The Daily Mail has picked up the story, it hasn't invented it. Again, anything that is seen to rile the Daily Mail is judged by some people to have a value in itself. (Even if it is rapey misogyny.)

I'm not the original poster but it's in episode 4, starting at 31 mins 20 secs.

Transcription based on the sub-titles:
"If we actually grappled with the fact that sex-negativity is what causes this type of behaviour, then we could create a world where, in an idyllically sex-positive world, someone is able to pay conscious women to come and be drugged so that I can get my kink out, my fetish on having sex with unconscious people, there's a consensual way to do that."

I think she does say what the DM article is saying.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0f50n4g/we-need-to-talk-about-cosby-series-1-episode-4

That's weird because there is a clip on YouTube and which is embedded within the DM article and what she says is exactly as Bernard quoted. Are you saying the video's been doctored?

I think it was an older episode of Law & Order. Season 8 or 9 in the Lenny Briscoe days.

Apologies if this has already been said, but I'm so sick of the phrase "sex positive" being synonymous with misogynist sex. I'm extremely fucking positive about sex thanks v much. It's fun and also free. But having tried a fair amount of it, i can conclude that sex with misogynist men isn't usually especially "positive". And why is requiring bells and whistles and dodgy power dynamics to get aroused seen as more "positive" than simply being attracted by a naked body or the act of consensually shagging?

Having watched it, can you explain what she actually did say?

is she not advocating for women to consent to unconscious sex?

Time to cancel my licence 🥲

This.

This woman needs her license revoking. She is encouraging criminal acts.

What happens once the man decides drugged sex isn't doing it for him and this time he wants to kill the woman?