This makes me think of when John Swinney was asked about some of the content being taught to kids in Scottish schools. The facilitator warned him that it was being streamed live to which he replied that if they felt it was too explicit to be streamed then why the hell was it being taught to our kids!!

New thread here just to discuss this report and the government reaction to it:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4759306-miriam-cates-report-on-rse

96000 4000 more signatures needed

Re Asda’s ‘Love has no age’ promotions posted by
safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/06/18/love-has-no-age-a-letter-to-asda/ResisterRex

The secondary pack linked to a list of book recommendations provided by Diversity Role Models, including a book called ‘Beyond Magenta: Transgender Teens Speak Out’, which contained a first person account of performing oral sex at age six, with no suggestion that there was anything wrong with this.

And that teen was not born trans. That teen tried to identify out of being a child sexual abuse target.

The education unions will completely oppose this. They're all complicit, in the pockets of Stonewall and numerous other groups unsuitable to influence children. They've abandoned safeguarding in favour of queer theory activism and will now be petrified of facing the consequences.

HOWEVER, what this will do is (hopefully) is initiate an instantaneous school based review of their SRE curriculum. I suspect we'll find that some of the dodgy materials and individuals will suddenly be dumped rather than face formal scrutiny. There'll be "nothing to see here mate"

ResisterRex· Today 18:57
We have seen no evidence to suggest there is a widespread problem with pupils being presented with age-inappropriate materials and if this were the situation, we would expect it to have been picked up on a case-by-case basis.

As to no evidence, there is this petition which would be intended to encompass
age inappropriate materials too, not just things people of certain religions do not agree with. Over 200,000 signatures and it doesn’t end till July. After the first 10,000 the Government has to notice it.

There was also the Petition against teaching gender identity in schools. That reached 10,000.

Then there is the evidence collected by organisations like the Safe Schools Alliance.

A poster suggested an equivalent site to ‘Everyone is Invited’ which seems a good idea.

When I was young the teachers that were paedos were under the radar until it became “known” and everything was hushed up and they moved on to different schools. For my children the government has been writing abuse into the curriculum and doesn’t even need hiding. Welsh Government needs to stop with the grooming as well!!!!

MC has worked SOOOO hard on this!

As always, exceptionally clear and thorough.

This part gets to the nub of it so succinctly:

If children are taught to expect open dialogue with adults on this and other ‘sex positive’ topics, how can they be expected to identify when adults are addressing
them about this subject for the wrong reasons?

Similarly, safeguarding practice has previously relied upon observing when children express overtly sexualised dialogue as a potential sign of abuse, but this normalisation of such dialogue removes this
early warning.

Likewise, no thought seems to have been given to how upsetting it might be for a child who has suffered abuse to be confronted with these topics.

It is also worth considering whether the authority of an adult teacher should ever be applied to instructing children to declare what they know about masturbation or sex acts, since children might not think they are in a position to decline their teachers’ classroom instructions.

Likewise, thought should be given to the argument that to discuss the matter is exposing in a way that compromises a child’s dignity and lays them open to ridicule or bullying by other children when the teacher is not present to mediate.

Thank you for the link @ResisterRex

Some light bedtime reading 😆

That report is

SPECTACULAR!

This is great news, well done Miriam Cates and all the parents, teachers, women's groups, everyone who has pushed for this.

If the PM does this properly (and quickly) it will be a very popular move.

@Vebrithien I'll DM you.

I can provide emails from my DD's school and No Outsiders, about the use of gender, rather than sex, on poster ostensibly showing the 9 protected characteristics. If that is any use?

Thanks for the clarification. Will definitely look it up at the weekend.

@creekingmillenial , any hard evidence for the Women's Rights Network campaign to get this stuff out of schools would be great. We would be contacting MPs & Councils, not your school! We know that it's being taught in schools, but we can't prove this, unless concerned mums come to us with evidence.

creekingmillenial · Today 16:11
Yes, Everyone’s Invited was about sexual harassment in schools and at parties where the school children were. There was a lot of rape and assault too. It was started by someone at a private school, but a wider and wider group joined. I can’t remember if university students were included by the end too.

Is that the one about sexual harassment in schools? I think that’s what I’m thinking of.