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I don't agree with the ad-hominem comments on Sam Smith, India Willoughby et al.

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TERFCat · 02/03/2023 18:56

Basically as the title says.

I think gender ideology can be robustly criticized without the need for comments on any individual's appearance or dress sense.

If you go to Twitter, a lot of the GC accounts I follow are currently laughing at Sam Smith for his latest magazine cover. I don't like SS, but I do think that they is free to dress how they want. SS shouldn't be body shamed either as they has a perfectly normal body.

Same goes for India. Don't like them, but I don't think their clothes etc should be mocked.

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RaininSummer · 02/03/2023 19:07

That grammar scrambled my brain. If you must say 'they' surely you use 'are' not 'is'. Anyway I think that person is an attention seeking fool so fair game for comments on clothing choices.

VaddaABeetch · 02/03/2023 19:07

Me is free to comment how me likes about thems or is it theses?

Hoardasurass · 02/03/2023 19:06

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Fladdermus · 02/03/2023 19:05

Bit rich moaning about comments on clothing when you choose to go out dresses like an over cooked rotisseri chicken.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 02/03/2023 19:05

TERFCat · 02/03/2023 19:03

I said "they is free" as I'm not sure how pronouns work on this board these days. It's been a while since I've posted as I had two warnings (for mis-gendering) and didn't want to get banned.

How are we allowed to refer to Sam Smith?

I think everyone just uses ‘Sam’ a lot

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RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 02/03/2023 19:04

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mach2 · 02/03/2023 19:04

If your friend meets you in the pub wearing this:

s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/z3BzmmohVaEhowPtBG.AJg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MA--/s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2023-02/7746d7d0-abc2-11ed-bf7d-5612a033019b

Do you

A) Compliment them on their Avant Garde dress sense?

B) Pretend not to know them and leg it for the rear exit?

C) Roll on the floor gasping with hysterical laughter?

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TERFCat · 02/03/2023 19:03

I said "they is free" as I'm not sure how pronouns work on this board these days. It's been a while since I've posted as I had two warnings (for mis-gendering) and didn't want to get banned.

How are we allowed to refer to Sam Smith?

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PeekAtYou · 02/03/2023 19:01

The clothing and gender issues are very different.

Has SS said that he's hurt by the comments on his outfits or is he being a typical celeb and picking outfits that will get his picture in the papers and on SM like Met Gala attendees do ?

GromblesofGrimbledon · 02/03/2023 18:59

"They is free" ?

Well I is free to say that they is has a terrible sense of style and they is looks stupid.

That is all regardless of whatever gender he thinks he has or doesn't have. He's a celebrity and is putting himself out there to be roundly mocked along with the rest of them.

Fair game I say.