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Pupil made to leave class by drag queen for disagreeing with notion there are 73 genders

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ResisterRex · 27/02/2023 17:27

Just when you think you've seen it all. Apparently the Department for Education has been contacted for comment:

Drag queen ‘teaches 11-year-olds about anal sex and tells them there are 73 genders’

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/27/drag-queen-teaches-11-year-olds-anal-sex-tells-73-genders/

"Sex education has been suspended in Isle of Man schools after a drag queen allegedly told 11-year-olds that there are 73 genders.
The Isle of Man government has launched an independent review of its personal, social, health and economic (PSHE) curriculum after parents raised the alarmm_ about the “graphic, disproportionate, indecent presentation” of sexual acts and different gender identities understood to have been taught in lessons.
Parents of pupils at Queen Elizabeth II High School in Peel, on the Isle of Man, have reported that Year 7 pupils were taught by a drag queenn_ who told them there are 73 genders.
When one “upset” child responded and said “there’s only two”, the drag queen allegedly responded “you’ve upset me” and made the pupil leave the class.
Some 11-year-olds at the school were taught about oral and anal sex, while another group learned about sex change operations and were shown how skin graft taken from a girl’s arm could be used on an artificial penis, according to reports.
“A lot of children are just too traumatised to even talk to their parents," Eliza Cox, vice-chairman of Marown Commissioners, told Energy FM Isle of Man. “As a parent, you don’t know what children are being taught.”
She said that one teacher on the island had told her she had to teach a group of boys and girls in Years 7 and 8 how to masturbate. Another teacher was said to be so uncomfortable with the content of the PSHE curriculum that they told pupils: “Please don’t listen to me” while they taught the lesson."

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HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 28/02/2023 07:24

Wasn’t there a transwoman playing the piano with their penis as well?

knittingaddict · 28/02/2023 07:23

FictionalCharacter · 27/02/2023 18:48

Why are drag queens every bloody where these days? TV, ads, schools. They seem to be the definitive representatives of the "LGBTQIA+ community", the symbol of diversity and inclusion, and drag queen story time is absolutely everywhere. Who did this and how?

There was a transwoman on The Piano the other day. They weren't very good and stood out from the others for that reason alone. The judges looked uncomfortable about having to comment on a poor performance. No idea why it was included.

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 28/02/2023 07:20

This is a very educational video about pronouns, my children loves this.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IzNGkwGYE4E

puffyisgood · 28/02/2023 07:18

Ludicrous. If nothing else, 41.66 recurring of those 73 genders are completely made up.

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 28/02/2023 07:12

I think the trans community is brining this upon themselves- and individuals get caught up in it. Sorry OP. We are told that anyone who says they are trans should be accepted without question. Have you followed the story about the double rapist in Scotland who realised that SHE was trans in the courtroom and wanted to go to a women’s prison with HER PENIS? Do you realise how this comes across?

nobody really minded a few years ago when transwomen flew under the radar. Now, with women’s prisons, rape counselling, hospital wards, etc, all include biological males and we see and hear horror stories, it is enough. We will respect you more if you stop forcing women to accept you in our spaces.

Any right wing involvement has nothing to do with women. This has just become so visible that even Johnny in the pub now is aware of this. And, this may surprise you, Johnny in the pub doesn’t like the thought of other males in spaces where the women he loves are vulnerable. I think any violence here is male on male violence. Again keep women out of it.

With regards to the schools, I find it horrifying. We had a very bad experience of this sex / trans education from external providers, my children were traumatised. I discussed with other parents and this year we were ready. I have shown my children clips of Richard Gervais, Dave Chappelle, Konstantin Kishin, Magdalene Berns, etc over the past couple of years. They now think it all is hilarious.

They had sex-ed a few weeks ago. My son’s best friend asked if the teacher could repeat it all in a way more suitable for him as he identified as an attack helicopter (he also gave pronouns). The class was in stitches.

TodayInahurry · 28/02/2023 07:11

I am not a parent, but I cannot understand why this is allowed. The lunacy that has taken over so many institutions will be regarded with horror in a few years.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/02/2023 06:43

Happylittlechicken · 28/02/2023 06:10

Why would I listen to someone who make a job out of womanface? You’ll be expecting me to listen to those people who think minstrel shows are “just entertainment” next. Would you watch a show that uses blackface? If not why not? Why is womanface ok but blackface not?

I think you’ve misunderstood the point of my post. This video has been posted and discussed many times on Mumsnet in relation to safeguarding eg www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3799692-Kitty-Demure-A-friendly-message-to-mothers-who-want-their-kids-influenced-by-drag.

Justalittlebitduckling · 28/02/2023 06:33

IcakethereforeIam · 27/02/2023 17:32

Isle of Them, surely.

😂

Happylittlechicken · 28/02/2023 06:10

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/02/2023 00:52

Please watch this short video by DQ Kitty Demure on drag being adult entertainment and addresses your concerns from 2.03 mins.

Why would I listen to someone who make a job out of womanface? You’ll be expecting me to listen to those people who think minstrel shows are “just entertainment” next. Would you watch a show that uses blackface? If not why not? Why is womanface ok but blackface not?

mach2 · 28/02/2023 06:01

I meant his name, but a couple of posters have pointed out that it's ADHD.

I believe that this Sab bloke has ADHD himself so I guess he's "reclaiming" it.

SchoolTripDrama · 28/02/2023 02:28

Grammarnut · 27/02/2023 17:36

Who needs teaching how to masturbate? I knew by the time I was 4 or 5 that certain ways I could touch myself gave me a lot of pleasure. As for anal and oral sex, do eleven-year-olds need to know this? What on earth is going on? I have grandchildren this age and stories like this worry the hell out of me.

I beg your pardon? 4 or 5? I'm sorry but that's not right ☹️

Redebs · 28/02/2023 02:11

This is not ok

Pupil made to leave class by drag queen for disagreeing with notion there are 73 genders
Redebs · 28/02/2023 02:10

Great to teach children about the fact that some people are gay. That's how it should be.

But 'trans' lifestyle?

Redebs · 28/02/2023 02:07

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 02:03

@Redebs It looks like either parents will have to remove their child on the day that sex education is taught, that's if they get prior warning, which is doubtful, or remove their children from formal education altogether, in order to shield their children from this insanity. I really do pity any parent with young children of school age, it's a disgrace!

Schools don't have to inform parents in advance when teaching about Relationships and they aren't allowed to withdraw children from it anyway.

Pupil made to leave class by drag queen for disagreeing with notion there are 73 genders
SammyScrounge · 28/02/2023 02:07

Echobelly · 27/02/2023 21:42

The 73 genders thing is daft and, if that's how it happened, it wasn't necessary to insist the child believes that and it was totally the wrong way to deal with it.

The sex education sounds very inappropriate but I don't see the text saying that the drag queen was doing any of the teaching and therefore it is a matter for the people who designed the curriculum to deal with, but in a nasty, manipulative bit of homophobia it's been written ambiguously to link those with the drag queen. Even a wokey snowflake like me initially read it as the drag queen having done that before I realised that's not what it said, so it's clearly written to set people off.

Maybe you don't like drag, but if you amplify these stories uncritically you are being a useful idiot for deeply unpleasant people who want to destroy LGBTQ's people's lives with the 'won't someone think of the children' line and turning otherwise reasonable people to the idea that all gay rights have gone too far and they need putting back in the closet.

I think it's time LGBT and supporters stopped sneering at 'Won't someone think of the children.' The thing is, people are thinking of them and wondering how it happened that they are being.taught utter nonsense about gender and utter filth about sex.
People are wondering who.the deeply unpleasant people are behind all this and what is to be done about them.
You are concerned about LGBT rights; it might benefit you to shift your focus to the rights of children who are the true victims here and need protecting from very unpleasant people.

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 02:03

@Redebs It looks like either parents will have to remove their child on the day that sex education is taught, that's if they get prior warning, which is doubtful, or remove their children from formal education altogether, in order to shield their children from this insanity. I really do pity any parent with young children of school age, it's a disgrace!

Redebs · 28/02/2023 01:55

There are proposals to prevent parents from removing children from sex education in school.

We won't be allowed to protect children from this paedophile propaganda by law.

And these men are coming into children's events in libraries and community centres too, so there's no way to avoid their perverted agenda targeting children.

It's surreal how we are all supposed to let it happen.

Decades ago the PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange) made attempts at public acceptance. They gave interviews and promoted 'Man-Boy Love' as a natural and desirable thing. It was very nearly accepted politically. They had a lot of support. Then they were revealed for widespread child sexual abuse and they shut down.

They think the public has had long enough to forget and they can try again.

Each time I see a man in drag surrounding himself with children I remember Jimmy Saville.

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 01:39

Oh i knew you'd appreciate that song @Boiledbeetle as soon as i saw you'd posted meeces with cheese, i knew that song was called for, lol.

@IcakethereforeIam #TrueDat! You can't beat Bagpuss. It always puzzled me how Emily could bear to leave him in that shop window and not take him home. I think Emily must have grown up to be maladjusted, to be fair! smh!

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 01:37

IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2023 01:28

Bloody love bagpuss, that's how you tell a story!

Could any new posters, or older hands, please remember to visit the petition board and sign the Equality Act petition (link below). It's to strengthen the act to counter transactivists misrepresentations of it so that single sex spaces stay single sex. It's a Government petition, so completely anonymous. Please also consider sharing on sm, with friends, family, etc.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2?page=27

Yes please do as we are currently at 83,609 signatures and need to get to 100000.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2023 01:28

Bloody love bagpuss, that's how you tell a story!

Could any new posters, or older hands, please remember to visit the petition board and sign the Equality Act petition (link below). It's to strengthen the act to counter transactivists misrepresentations of it so that single sex spaces stay single sex. It's a Government petition, so completely anonymous. Please also consider sharing on sm, with friends, family, etc.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2?page=27

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 01:26

Oh "till we find the Stilton cheese" live it.

That was supposed to say love it. But the autocorrect has it right really!

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 01:06

@Boiledbeetle

:-D
Mummyoflittledragon · 28/02/2023 00:52

Echobelly · 27/02/2023 21:42

The 73 genders thing is daft and, if that's how it happened, it wasn't necessary to insist the child believes that and it was totally the wrong way to deal with it.

The sex education sounds very inappropriate but I don't see the text saying that the drag queen was doing any of the teaching and therefore it is a matter for the people who designed the curriculum to deal with, but in a nasty, manipulative bit of homophobia it's been written ambiguously to link those with the drag queen. Even a wokey snowflake like me initially read it as the drag queen having done that before I realised that's not what it said, so it's clearly written to set people off.

Maybe you don't like drag, but if you amplify these stories uncritically you are being a useful idiot for deeply unpleasant people who want to destroy LGBTQ's people's lives with the 'won't someone think of the children' line and turning otherwise reasonable people to the idea that all gay rights have gone too far and they need putting back in the closet.

Please watch this short video by DQ Kitty Demure on drag being adult entertainment and addresses your concerns from 2.03 mins.

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 00:50

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 00:42

Welcome @birchtreeglow, I'm fairly new to this board still and have found they're a very forgiving bunch if you make an arse of yourself, so i wouldn't worry. If in doubt, just get the cheeseboard out and the other posters will be golden. :-)

🧀🐀🐭

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 00:42

Welcome @birchtreeglow, I'm fairly new to this board still and have found they're a very forgiving bunch if you make an arse of yourself, so i wouldn't worry. If in doubt, just get the cheeseboard out and the other posters will be golden. :-)

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