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Pupil made to leave class by drag queen for disagreeing with notion there are 73 genders

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ResisterRex · 27/02/2023 17:27

Just when you think you've seen it all. Apparently the Department for Education has been contacted for comment:

Drag queen ‘teaches 11-year-olds about anal sex and tells them there are 73 genders’

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/27/drag-queen-teaches-11-year-olds-anal-sex-tells-73-genders/

"Sex education has been suspended in Isle of Man schools after a drag queen allegedly told 11-year-olds that there are 73 genders.
The Isle of Man government has launched an independent review of its personal, social, health and economic (PSHE) curriculum after parents raised the alarmm_ about the “graphic, disproportionate, indecent presentation” of sexual acts and different gender identities understood to have been taught in lessons.
Parents of pupils at Queen Elizabeth II High School in Peel, on the Isle of Man, have reported that Year 7 pupils were taught by a drag queenn_ who told them there are 73 genders.
When one “upset” child responded and said “there’s only two”, the drag queen allegedly responded “you’ve upset me” and made the pupil leave the class.
Some 11-year-olds at the school were taught about oral and anal sex, while another group learned about sex change operations and were shown how skin graft taken from a girl’s arm could be used on an artificial penis, according to reports.
“A lot of children are just too traumatised to even talk to their parents," Eliza Cox, vice-chairman of Marown Commissioners, told Energy FM Isle of Man. “As a parent, you don’t know what children are being taught.”
She said that one teacher on the island had told her she had to teach a group of boys and girls in Years 7 and 8 how to masturbate. Another teacher was said to be so uncomfortable with the content of the PSHE curriculum that they told pupils: “Please don’t listen to me” while they taught the lesson."

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Goosebarnacle · 01/03/2023 18:52

ClaudeMyWinkleman · 01/03/2023 03:05

😂👏

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Isle of Man, sometimes Mann, refers to the sea god Manannin. I'm not sure Celtic mythical beings subscribe to gender ideology. Although no doubt someone will prove me wrong on that!

Brokendaughter · 01/03/2023 14:09

Stop including LGB people in TQ+ issues by lumping the two completely different groups together.

LGB have been more 'out' in the general population for a lot longer than the TQ+ people & there has never been a problem caused by an organised group of LGB people trying to force their way into schools to teach primary aged children about anal sex while dressed in clothes they might wear out in a club on a Saturday night (closest equivalent to drag I could think of for regular people).

There has not, as far as I have ever heard, been a push from LGB people to be paraded in schools like a zoo exhibit so people know 'they exist'.

It's only the TQ+ movement who are insistent on opportunities to explain their sexual practices & sexuality to children despite opposition from parents & children.

This is PIE propaganda distributed in a sparkly outfit.

FrancescaContini · 01/03/2023 12:10

The Themx 😂

Kittlbua · 01/03/2023 11:22

Is it possible for parents to withdraw their children from things like that?
Maybe that would get the message across - as many parents as possible refuse permission and withdraw the child from sessions like this.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2023 09:18

The Manx (Themx?) newspaper says the drag queen allegations are unsubstantiated. I wonder what's in this document/video that's said to be circulating?

GoldilockMom · 01/03/2023 07:36

www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/review-into-sex-education-curriculum-will-be-published-as-quickly-as-possible/?fbclid=IwAR0KyHd74iWRP7ygSFqChLQjrTOwfro2mUaNiIXW4XW33h40Qg28vgH3wws -

the education ministers response

What will happen here is that the teacher will be sacked -

However I’m glad it’s got the nation talking about this because this is already happening under the radar within schools.

Girls are being targeted because porn in all forms has become normalized.

marchella · 01/03/2023 03:41

SHocking!
Is there a reason that parents can't pull their kids out of these sessions ( as a total worst outcome but might send a msg to the school. Everyone could be " sick".) Or do you not get any advance warning of these sessions?
I'm not in UK.
I just would not send my child . There is absolutely nothing they can do ( where I live). Also a note would be sent out asking for permission way ahead of time. . I wouldn't sign it. We have to sign for all incursions ( terrible word I think) , otherwise your child does not attend that play , musical performance, speech etc being presented by whoever it is that has come into to the school . They stay out and are supervised by a teacher.

Northernsouloldies · 01/03/2023 03:08

The mind boggles at the other 71variations on the vagina/penis owners. Very strange subject to promote to children.

ClaudeMyWinkleman · 01/03/2023 03:05

IcakethereforeIam · 27/02/2023 17:32

Isle of Them, surely.

😂👏

EnterChasedByAMemory · 01/03/2023 02:52

icanneverthinkofnc · 27/02/2023 18:25

Grooming in plain sight....I would be very looking closely at all those adults involved if I were SS/police.

Agreed. I’m surprised this was even allowed in the first place. All those who were complicit in organizing and approving this, as I’m sure there must be a stringent approval process to bringing in a guest speaker in a school, must be looked into. At best they just were incompetent and didn’t do their due diligence and at worst there is a more sinister agenda.

NastyNiff · 01/03/2023 02:51

Fascinated this is happening under the Tories. Although it would happen under Labour too

Link3 · 01/03/2023 02:43

But I'm not sure where the idea that it's abnormal as such for children to experience sexual feelings comes from, it's just factually inaccurate.

It's abnormal when adults prescribe (project?) sexuality onto a child's perfectly normal pleasure responses.

MarshaMelrose · 01/03/2023 02:08

CMO · 28/02/2023 14:30

Yeah, it;s totally unreasonable as everyone knows there are 127 genders.

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Yeah. That drag queen is just a bigot leaving those others off.

DemiColon · 01/03/2023 01:54

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 01:43

It's also a fact well known by men with bad intentions. They use the fact that a child gains pleasure from it without the child really understanding to their advantage. It helps them keep the child from speaking out because the child feels guilty and complicit because they orgasmed.

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Yes, or simply confuses the child in general which makes it harder to deal with what's happened.

But I'm not sure where the idea that it's abnormal as such for children to experience sexual feelings comes from, it's just factually inaccurate.

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 01:43

DemiColon · 28/02/2023 22:21

It's really not uncommon for young children to masturbate before puberty. Do they think of it in the way an adult would, no, but it's part of the sexual response system.

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It's also a fact well known by men with bad intentions. They use the fact that a child gains pleasure from it without the child really understanding to their advantage. It helps them keep the child from speaking out because the child feels guilty and complicit because they orgasmed.

EpicChaos · 28/02/2023 23:17

@birchtreeglow You're welcome for the welcomes :-)

@JustPassingTyhme

" Teachers can take it to social services, ofsted, the police, or their MP. Lots of teachers are part of a Union. Why not contact the press about the inadequate safeguarding procedures for teachers? If teachers are being wrongfully fired for raising safeguarding concerns then they can contact a lawyer. "

Awwww, bless!
Which of those groups are not already captured, do you think? :-/
None!

DemiColon · 28/02/2023 22:21

beastlyslumber · 28/02/2023 11:21

So are you saying that little girls experience sexual desire and sexual pleasure? Because no, they don't, and that is wrong, and sounds like what a child abuser would say.

If you're saying that children touch their genitals from an early age, then that is correct. But it has nothing to do with sexuality, which doesn't develop until puberty. And it's not masturbation.

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It's really not uncommon for young children to masturbate before puberty. Do they think of it in the way an adult would, no, but it's part of the sexual response system.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 28/02/2023 20:11

Teachers can take it to social services, ofsted, the police, or their MP. Lots of teachers are part of a Union. Why not contact the press about the inadequate safeguarding procedures for teachers? If teachers are being wrongfully fired for raising safeguarding concerns then they can contact a lawyer.

None of the organisations you have listed care at all about poor safeguarding procedures in schools. They only care once a child has been hurt, and if you try to raise flags in advance they assume school leadership are right and the teacher is wrong. Except unions, of course, but they are fully captured. Press and getting fired are nuclear options which are largely unavailable to people who need to feed and house their own children. In most cases the union will advise you to get a different job rather than fight a battle you’ll probably lose.

I wasn’t brave. I quit for an equally well paid job.

That said, I’m pretty sure I’d have taken being sacked rather than teaching children how to masturbate!

FictionalCharacter · 28/02/2023 19:13

Treaclemine · 28/02/2023 16:07

When I was teaching, there was an influx of Bad Science in training days. None of it was sexual. I wondered why we had it, but lookimg back, I now wonder whether it was to see what they could persuade teachers to do.
I particulary recall Brain Gym. It began with the idea of different functions of right and left brains. It had not kept up with the work on the subject, especially male and female (not lady brains!) It said that the two hemispheres should be made to work together by means of buttons on the body. We were all instructed to teach the language of the scheme and do their exercises in the part of the afternoon that had been break. No discussion was allowed. I didn't do what was instructed as it had no scientific validity, but feeling that exercise break was a good idea, resorted to Victorian exercises instead, and never got caught.
Looking back, the elements of pseudoscience, unquestioned, and unquestionable by those without much science education; instructions to obey, and the feeling that you couldn't talk with collegues about it seem familiar. They all seemed so enthusistic.

Well. My reply to this was deleted. It was about scientists being told they’re wrong about, er, stuff, because the “science has changed”. Maybe because I referred to a certain movement in terms that are disapproved of. I will send myself for re-education.

mach2 · 28/02/2023 18:57

That doesn't logically follow.

JustPassingTyhme · 28/02/2023 18:19

I’m glad that you have principles when it comes to safeguarding and have acted on them. However, it is incorrect that there is nothing a teacher can do if their deputy safeguarding lead cannot safeguard. If the safeguarding lead will not adequality safeguard vulnerable children (literally their job), then that in itself is a safeguarding concern.

Teachers can take it to social services, ofsted, the police, or their MP. Lots of teachers are part of a Union. Why not contact the press about the inadequate safeguarding procedures for teachers? If teachers are being wrongfully fired for raising safeguarding concerns then they can contact a lawyer.

Teachers spend approximately 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 10 months a year with children. They must be able to safeguard. They cannot simply shrug their shoulders and watch as children are being abused, because their boss is being difficult, and they don’t want to be fired. Do you think it is an acceptable response to say to the children:

“I know you were traumatised for life by that lesson, but your teacher valued money over your safety.”

No amount of money can ever compensate for child abuse. They are paid to teach and safeguard children; it is part of their job. If they are not doing the safeguarding part of their job, they can give half of their salary back. They are putting money ahead of the wellbeing of children. If they would do that at work, they would do that a home.

If they cannot safeguard at work, then they cannot safeguard at home.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 28/02/2023 17:26

the most optimal environment to support the reporting of safeguarding concerns

Unfortunately, that is just not the case. Teachers report safeguarding concerns to the DSL - usually the head or deputy head (essentially their bosses). If you disagree with how they've handled it you can escalate to the local authority. If you further disagree you could report to ofsted. But if all of those with actual power (local authority, ofsted) think the head is right then there is actually nothing you can do. I've quit a job over unacceptable safeguarding procedures, but I am lucky that I work in a shortage subject so can easily find more work. I've seen colleagues hounded out of work because they had escalated (to the local authority) a safeguarding report they didn't feel had been handled correctly.

birchtreeglow · 28/02/2023 17:19

Madcats · 28/02/2023 12:14

I think I might be Blizzgender today. It's a bit chilly without the heating on and I am in a bad mood about what is being inflicted on little kids these days. Are my pronouns "Brr"/"Grr"?

If you look for "Women's Voices" on Twitter you ought to be able to find an interview about the school. The suggestion is that their sex ed guidelines are bases on the Scottish ones.

Thanks @Madcats , I hadn't seen Women's Voices before. Found the video. Blimey.

twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1630499121026195459?s=20

StephanieSuperpowers · 28/02/2023 17:04

God, I remember having to do Brain Gym with the body buttons and the elephant thing.

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