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Pupil made to leave class by drag queen for disagreeing with notion there are 73 genders

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ResisterRex · 27/02/2023 17:27

Just when you think you've seen it all. Apparently the Department for Education has been contacted for comment:

Drag queen ‘teaches 11-year-olds about anal sex and tells them there are 73 genders’

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/27/drag-queen-teaches-11-year-olds-anal-sex-tells-73-genders/

"Sex education has been suspended in Isle of Man schools after a drag queen allegedly told 11-year-olds that there are 73 genders.
The Isle of Man government has launched an independent review of its personal, social, health and economic (PSHE) curriculum after parents raised the alarmm_ about the “graphic, disproportionate, indecent presentation” of sexual acts and different gender identities understood to have been taught in lessons.
Parents of pupils at Queen Elizabeth II High School in Peel, on the Isle of Man, have reported that Year 7 pupils were taught by a drag queenn_ who told them there are 73 genders.
When one “upset” child responded and said “there’s only two”, the drag queen allegedly responded “you’ve upset me” and made the pupil leave the class.
Some 11-year-olds at the school were taught about oral and anal sex, while another group learned about sex change operations and were shown how skin graft taken from a girl’s arm could be used on an artificial penis, according to reports.
“A lot of children are just too traumatised to even talk to their parents," Eliza Cox, vice-chairman of Marown Commissioners, told Energy FM Isle of Man. “As a parent, you don’t know what children are being taught.”
She said that one teacher on the island had told her she had to teach a group of boys and girls in Years 7 and 8 how to masturbate. Another teacher was said to be so uncomfortable with the content of the PSHE curriculum that they told pupils: “Please don’t listen to me” while they taught the lesson."

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IcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2023 01:28

Bloody love bagpuss, that's how you tell a story!

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Tabasco007 · 03/03/2023 08:25

Soubriquet · 27/02/2023 17:44

Dd is 9, nearly 10 and I’ve received an email telling me they are doing sex education this term. I’m very patient and open with dd. If she asks questions, I’ve told her as best as I could in a child friendly way.

Im hoping, whatever they talk about at school, that she can come and talk to me if it bothers her. I’ve told her she can. That if anything worries, confuses or upsets her, talk to me and I will help where I can, but it’s easier said than done.

I wouldn’t be happy with a drag queen teaching my dd these things though

Out of curiosity, Are you going to. Ask the school the content before it starts?

FrancescaContini · 03/03/2023 08:07

Logicoutofthewindow · 02/03/2023 20:17

The pervert is the drag queen 'teaching' children about anal and oral sex. Yet that pervert is offended by a child who corrected him stating there are not 73 genders. The children and parents aren't allowed to be offended by the man chatting anal sex to children though. Lunacy

Yep. It’s a bit of a DARVO situation in a way.

Logicoutofthewindow · 02/03/2023 20:17

The pervert is the drag queen 'teaching' children about anal and oral sex. Yet that pervert is offended by a child who corrected him stating there are not 73 genders. The children and parents aren't allowed to be offended by the man chatting anal sex to children though. Lunacy

Logicoutofthewindow · 02/03/2023 20:15

Wow. Poor children. When will society stand up and protect them from perverts and the beliefs of a few rather than teach reality and fact.

SinnerBoy · 02/03/2023 19:24

IcakethereforeIam · Today 18:05

I think Thor indulged in cross dressing at least once.

Achilles was an early proponent of, "I AM a real laydee!"

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 02/03/2023 19:05

I think Thor indulged in cross dressing at least once

Ha, no one who's worked with the special forces or marines will be surprised by that. The more performatively macho the job, the more they love cross-dressing - and you don't get more performatively macho than thunder god..

hryllilegur · 02/03/2023 18:37

IcakethereforeIam · 02/03/2023 18:05

I think Thor indulged in cross dressing at least once. My celtic mythology is a bit rusty but there are so many stories I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one that's a gender bender. Didn't Babh(?) visit labour pains on the men of Ulster because her husband made her run a race when she was pregnant?

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Loki was definitely in to anything. He was even impregnated by a horse.

Chersfrozenface · 02/03/2023 18:29

The fourth branch of the Welsh myths Y Mabinogi has a doozie of a story about Math fab Mathonwy punishing his nephews Gilfaethwy and Gwydion, turning them into three kinds of animal, male and female turn by turn, and finally back into humans again. G and G mate and produce young, who are then turned into human children and given names, reflecting their animal origins, by Math.

hryllilegur · 02/03/2023 18:24

ResisterRex · 02/03/2023 17:40

Like Cher says..."reasons" why there's no:

Dog Walker Story Time
Mechanic Story Time
Planning Officer Story Time

Etc

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I wouldn’t be surprised if planning officers weren’t willing to offer local plans story time sessions in the local library to try to get some engagement in their consultation exercises. 🤣

IcakethereforeIam · 02/03/2023 18:05

Goosebarnacle · 01/03/2023 18:52

Isle of Man, sometimes Mann, refers to the sea god Manannin. I'm not sure Celtic mythical beings subscribe to gender ideology. Although no doubt someone will prove me wrong on that!

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I think Thor indulged in cross dressing at least once. My celtic mythology is a bit rusty but there are so many stories I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one that's a gender bender. Didn't Babh(?) visit labour pains on the men of Ulster because her husband made her run a race when she was pregnant?

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 17:58

…they'd presumably have the pronouns fae/faer!

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ResisterRex · 02/03/2023 17:40

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 16:01

And on the subject in hand, why a drag queen would be invited to teach escapes me. You wouldn't invite a clown or the local milkman to teach, so why a drag queen?

Like Cher says..."reasons" why there's no:

Dog Walker Story Time
Mechanic Story Time
Planning Officer Story Time

Etc

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Goosebarnacle · 02/03/2023 17:23

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 16:00

I'm almost certain that there will be a gender corresponding to Celtic mythical beings. It will involve feeling that one's gender is whimsical, surrounded by romantic mists on peat bogs and playing some sort of traditional musical instrument.

And welcome @birchtreeglow !

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Ah my mistake, they'd presumably have the pronouns fae/faer! I spelt Manannan incorrectly too, obviously not on the ball yesterday.

@NotHavingIt I think there are two different situations that have been amalgamated. Whatever the yr7s have been taught and a different lesson for older (15-16) kids.

Chersfrozenface · 02/03/2023 16:33

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 16:01

And on the subject in hand, why a drag queen would be invited to teach escapes me. You wouldn't invite a clown or the local milkman to teach, so why a drag queen?

EDI, ensuring visibility of the LGBTQ+ community, member of the LGBTQ+ community, lived experience, expert on gender matters.

All buzz concepts currently.

I expect there are more, er, reasons.

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 16:01

And on the subject in hand, why a drag queen would be invited to teach escapes me. You wouldn't invite a clown or the local milkman to teach, so why a drag queen?

SidewaysOtter · 02/03/2023 16:00

Goosebarnacle · 01/03/2023 18:52

Isle of Man, sometimes Mann, refers to the sea god Manannin. I'm not sure Celtic mythical beings subscribe to gender ideology. Although no doubt someone will prove me wrong on that!

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I'm almost certain that there will be a gender corresponding to Celtic mythical beings. It will involve feeling that one's gender is whimsical, surrounded by romantic mists on peat bogs and playing some sort of traditional musical instrument.

And welcome @birchtreeglow !

NotHavingIt · 02/03/2023 15:14

bellac11 · 02/03/2023 15:02

Why was he picked to do the lesson then. Doesnt make sense

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Maybe he was just brought in to 'teach' about gender identity? Not sure. Time will reveal, I assume.

It is unclear whether the 'penis creation out of forearm flesh' and other controversial sections were taught by the drag artist or by another teacher at the school.

SinnerBoy · 02/03/2023 15:13

Oops! That was another school.

Doh!

SinnerBoy · 02/03/2023 15:13

NotHavingIt · Today 14:50

On my regional news channel last night, the head of the school had been reported as having said that " the drag artist was not dressed in drag for the lesson".

The Family Education Trust has a different version, where he was in drag:

twitter.com/FamEdTrust/status/1631005600564871171

bellac11 · 02/03/2023 15:02

NotHavingIt · 02/03/2023 14:50

On my regional news channel last night, the head of the school had been reported as having said that " the drag artist was not dressed in drag for the lesson".

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Why was he picked to do the lesson then. Doesnt make sense

NotHavingIt · 02/03/2023 14:50

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2023 09:18

The Manx (Themx?) newspaper says the drag queen allegations are unsubstantiated. I wonder what's in this document/video that's said to be circulating?

On my regional news channel last night, the head of the school had been reported as having said that " the drag artist was not dressed in drag for the lesson".

Grammarnut · 02/03/2023 13:39

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 19:11

This is PIE propaganda distributed in a sparkly outfit.

Isn't it! I want to shake people and shout "why don't you see"

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There is an element of introducing inappropriate sexuality and ideas about sexual practices that are inappropriate to children. Whether it is PIE propaganda is a moot point, but Queer Theory is about breaking down barriers and boundaries. Before you remove the fence, ask why the fence is there.

Igneococcus · 02/03/2023 08:07

Pretty dismissive comment by David Aaronovitch about DQSH (dismissive of people who take issue with it) and the culture wars in general in the Times today. I wonder if he's seen this story before he submittted his comment for publication.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cc9dcd4e-b854-11ed-a513-158bcb2665eb?shareToken=f104a2fa3e9071e4a60de0033da13322

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 19:11

Brokendaughter · 01/03/2023 14:09

Stop including LGB people in TQ+ issues by lumping the two completely different groups together.

LGB have been more 'out' in the general population for a lot longer than the TQ+ people & there has never been a problem caused by an organised group of LGB people trying to force their way into schools to teach primary aged children about anal sex while dressed in clothes they might wear out in a club on a Saturday night (closest equivalent to drag I could think of for regular people).

There has not, as far as I have ever heard, been a push from LGB people to be paraded in schools like a zoo exhibit so people know 'they exist'.

It's only the TQ+ movement who are insistent on opportunities to explain their sexual practices & sexuality to children despite opposition from parents & children.

This is PIE propaganda distributed in a sparkly outfit.

This is PIE propaganda distributed in a sparkly outfit.

Isn't it! I want to shake people and shout "why don't you see"

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