Laura Goldsmith speaks about her ordeal at the hands of Karen White in a Women's Prison

You're right to be angry. And you should never apologies. Of course it's about you, but it's also about us, other women, potential victims. You are so brave. Perhaps use that anger to go to a newspaper such as the Times, Telegraph or Daily Mail. No point going to the Guardian.

Please contact bbc complaints and ceo and newswatch again plus the telegraph and the times now with your screenshot. I think they may listen this time. Copy in your mp and the dcms depth.
I hope the time has come that things like this will stop being suppressed.

Brave woman.

We are just collateral damage aren't we? Women and children.

Well that has been the hypothesis put forward to society. It's not working well however. Women are not shutting up or going along with it, which would have been the essential part.

We are just collateral damage aren't we? Women and children.

I'm so sorry @unclebuck. It's piling abuse on top of abuse.

I'm sure White has many more victims than just the four we know of too.

@unclebuck don't you ever apologise love. Solidarity with you 

Yes well, if a trans "w" prisoner gets a telling off and a few days seg for beating a woman up.

And a beaten up woman prisoner gets extra days on her sentence, for saying, "He hit me."

Is it any surprise?

This.

The poor woman lived in a situation, 24/7, where she was afraid of this male and would have received additional punishment from the authorities if she dared to displease by not maintaining the illusion that her abuser was a woman. Abuse layered on abuse.

It's quite possible that the Daily Mail pressured her into agreeing to using female pronouns for this man.

The case below is one of a few referred to in the new IPSO draft guidance for gender identity issues.

www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/?id=09309-21

Why did IPSO not take into account the power imbalance between them and the woman who wanted her story told?

I am shocked that IPSO are using this case as an example of the type of rulings they would make.

If you think this is a problem please reply to the IPSO consultation.

Rightsraptor· Today 10:26

Such a shame she still feels compelled to call White 'she'.

I noticed that, too and my thought was, "How awful that she's still conditioned to call him that."

@unclebuck

This absolutely is about you, you have my every sympathy. It's about you and every single other victim of scum like them.

You have nothing to apologise for.

@unclebuck Im so fucking angry just reading your posts! Don’t ever apologise. Everything you have said is the truth.

Thank you for sharing your experience @unclebuck , you are being very measured considering what has happened to you. The air of superiority from the BBC is just nauseating.

Too many perverts in positions of power.

How horrific and she should never have been put in that position.

One thing that stood out - She said there were about 20 males the last time she had been in.

That is absolutely terrifying. It's not just the odd one here or there. It is loads of them!

And you have every right to be.

Your feelings, your experience, your distress, is just as important as that of any male person's.

I’m sorry to hear that. It’s definitely not you who should be apologising @unclebuck 💐. I’m fucking angry too. How can the BBC be so stupid and never learn the lesson?

Please don’t apologise.
this is exactly what it is about. It is about you, the women telling their stories in the press, the women and children not telling their stories in the press, and all the rest of us.
This shit is completely avoidable and the lies and gaslighting is just incredible.

💐 and 🍰 for you

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Never apologise for speaking about your experience @unclebuck - it’s the common threads of experience that bind us together.

When transactivists or political handwavers respond to our objections with ‘Why do YOU care so much about this issue?’ your post above is the answer - and your answer is much like all our answers.

The set dressing might be new but the playbook is as old as time and it’s easy to recognise when you’ve witnessed it before.

@unclebuck - if I were you I’d send a copy of the BBC’s pathetic response back to the director general and ask him to justify every word of it to you. I’d also be tempted to share it with the press to shame the bbc for their ridiculously misogynistic behaviour and policies.

Four.

Four women.

There is a body count of harmed, injured people left in the wake this supporting males in living their authentic lives and all of those bodies are female. And the count is growing. Steadily.

As for 'weaponising their trauma....' What kind of a human being says this ffs? White was 'weaponising' White's penis, but the real issue is that women spoke out about it, which draws attention to the very negative realities of White and by extension other male people in women's spaces? In a way that may prejudice public opinion against letting male people crack on doing their thing regardless of harm to women?

Good! Let's talk about those realities and those women!

How about we stop blaming women for not being abused quietly enough and start expecting male people to take responsibility for their own actions and those of their sex class?