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Rights and responsibilities in GP if gender-critical

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Healthanon · 25/02/2023 19:36

Good evening all.
I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on my rights and responsibilities working in general practice as a gender critical woman.

To be clear, I want to treat all people with respect and dignity and provide them with all the health care and information that they need or require. I am very happy to call anyone by whatever first name they like but I am gender critical and don’t want to use any gendered terms at all if possible.
Is this ok? I could call all people M. As a title? M. Jones, M. Smith, etc.

Any trans people out there, would you find this acceptable? How about non trans people? Would you be ok not being called Mr/Miss/Ms?

If someone complained about me because of this will I get fired?

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howdoesatoastermaketoast · 01/03/2023 21:23

insofar as possible I would drop the use of titles altogether as old fashioned

but I wouldn't suggest trying to make up a new one.

Spidey66 · 01/03/2023 08:51

The OP doesn't say she's a GP though, just she's going to work in a GP practice. Could be an admin or HCA.

WarriorN · 26/02/2023 07:12

Gps have their own social networking forums so I don't believe this post is real

KohlaParasaurus · 26/02/2023 05:21

Soontobe60 · 25/02/2023 22:44

So you are happy to positively affirm gender ideology? Have you read the Cass review? Do you prescribe opposite sex hormones to these young women, or refer them on for mastectomies?

I'm not sure why you have leapt to that assumption. I have read the Cass report and have a firm grasp of biology. It's never been my role as a GP to make a diagnosis of gender dysphoria or refer patients directly to gender services or initiate puberty blockers or cross sex hormones, and it would be rude and beyond unhelpful if I were to pick fights over their identity in a medical consultation with trans identified patients who turned up in my consulting room looking for - and being fully entitled to - the same standard of care and courtesy anyone else would receive just because I haven't bought into gender ideology.

Soontobe60 · 25/02/2023 22:44

KohlaParasaurus · 25/02/2023 22:13

Can't say I find it a problem. If someone wants us to use a title or pronouns that aren't the obvious sex based ones it's their responsibility to let the practice know, and if anyone makes a mistake the worst that might happen is that they'll be politely corrected. Providing optimal care to individual transgender patients (most of mine in recent years have been young transmen) and referring to them according to their chosen gender while being mindful of their biological sex has never been difficult.

So you are happy to positively affirm gender ideology? Have you read the Cass review? Do you prescribe opposite sex hormones to these young women, or refer them on for mastectomies?

Soontobe60 · 25/02/2023 22:41

DrDinosaur · 25/02/2023 20:21

I am ferociously gender critical, I address my patients by the title they have indicated they prefer.
I am surprised you have an issue with that.

Really? I can’t recall any single time when a GP, or indeed any other HCP, has addressed me by my title. In the last, the receptionist would call out our names - ‘Freda Smith, Dr Bloggs will see you now’ or the doctor would come out and call my name ‘ Freda…’. Nowadays, my name comes up on the screen - Freda Smith Room 6 Dr Bloggs.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 25/02/2023 22:38

A lot of people asking about their responsibilities in the workplace lately. Does your GP practice have communal showers as well?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/02/2023 22:37

@Healthanon ir might be wise to ask this professional question of your trainee supervisor rather than a bunch of anonymous randomers on an internet forum.

you could log this as “reflective practice” in your CPD file, though. Assuming you, you know, reflect.

ProstheticConscience · 25/02/2023 22:28

LoobiJee · 25/02/2023 20:38

Yes, GPs are self employed aren’t they? Independent contractors?

Some are salaried GPs rather than partners so that might affect it.
OP - can I suggest you read the GMC guidelines and perhaps ask this in doctors net.
As a patient, no GP has ever used my title so surely this shouldn't be an issue?

Blister · 25/02/2023 22:21

Trying to remember the last time anyone said a title out loud that wasn't Dr or royalty/lord/ lady etc.
And even the 'Dr' don't get their titles said at the gp. It's just first names...
Claudia (not my name) to room 2, please...

You get the picture.

Then full name and dob for other verification and their off for the misdiagnosis and the not listening to me...

Did you do your teaching hospital rotations yet?

KohlaParasaurus · 25/02/2023 22:13

Can't say I find it a problem. If someone wants us to use a title or pronouns that aren't the obvious sex based ones it's their responsibility to let the practice know, and if anyone makes a mistake the worst that might happen is that they'll be politely corrected. Providing optimal care to individual transgender patients (most of mine in recent years have been young transmen) and referring to them according to their chosen gender while being mindful of their biological sex has never been difficult.

LulooLemon · 25/02/2023 22:01

It's still half term holiday, isn't it.

Coyoacan · 25/02/2023 21:43

If I were a GP I'd be more concerned about the healthcare I gave my transgender patients.

BlueHeelers · 25/02/2023 20:50

But at least you won't be giving out puberty blockers like sweeties & I hope you are reserving hormone replacement therapy for women who need it, rather than men who want to ... well, I don't know what adult men want artificial cross-sex hormones for.

But save the HRT for women who need it.

BlueHeelers · 25/02/2023 20:48

I have several titles (earned & inherited), but my GP usually calls me by the formal (long) version of my Christian name.

MajesticWhine · 25/02/2023 20:42

Many GPs are salaried or locums and employed by a practice.

titchy · 25/02/2023 20:38

Faffertea · 25/02/2023 20:11

I’m going to honest OP and say your post seems very odd to me.
Firstly because if you are a GP I don’t see how what you’re worrying about is an issue. You call the patient Joe Bloggs or whatever their name is.
Secondly I don’t understand what you mean by ‘gendered language.’ Are you talking about what pronouns you would use to a third party e.g if you were referring a patient?
Thirdly and most significantly how can you have got through medical school, foundation training and GP specialty training and not be aware of the basic sources of guidance regarding your practice?

Astonishing isn't it?

LoobiJee · 25/02/2023 20:38

Faffertea · 25/02/2023 20:13

Also what do you mean “will I get fired?” Fired by whom? Again, your apparent lack of basic information about how GPs are employed and regulated seems odd at best.

Yes, GPs are self employed aren’t they? Independent contractors?

MajesticWhine · 25/02/2023 20:33

I wouldn't be happy with M. I would assume it was a mistake.
I find titles like Mr and Mrs quite old fashioned but they are necessary on medical letters. Because you don't put Dear Firstname, it's usually too informal. If people specify the title they wish to use then it's fine.

DrDinosaur · 25/02/2023 20:21

I am ferociously gender critical, I address my patients by the title they have indicated they prefer.
I am surprised you have an issue with that.

Transparent2 · 25/02/2023 20:20

M is a title, but in French, and stands for Monsieur, so your female patients may not be too happy with you, unless they are transmen.

VladmirsPoutine · 25/02/2023 20:18

Would you write an addendum on every document/letter to explain to those not in the know (everyone else) that you have chosen to use 'M' as a title to avoid using gendered terms?

RoseslnTheHospital · 25/02/2023 20:16

You can't use the letter M as a title. Because it isn't one, and it looks like you think their first name begins with an M. Confusing. Just use the title people put on their details because that's what they will want to be referred to as. If they don't have a title specified then the default is Miss or Mr based on their sex.

Or, bypass titles and use their name only. Or ask if they prefer Mrs X or their first name.

Are you concerned about using a female title as requested by a male patient (or vice versa)?

parietal · 25/02/2023 20:14

Do you write letter to refer patient to consultant which could say

Mrs Smith is a lovely lady who needs ...

And if the patient can read the letter, they would get upset if the pronouns are wrong.

Is that the situation?

Faffertea · 25/02/2023 20:13

Also what do you mean “will I get fired?” Fired by whom? Again, your apparent lack of basic information about how GPs are employed and regulated seems odd at best.

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