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Girls' skirts policed.

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ArabellaScott · 24/02/2023 13:17

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-64743377

'Girls have been made to enter Rainford High School in St Helens separately to boys and have had their skirt length inspected by male teachers, they claim.

Hundreds of pupils staged a protest against how rules, which have left some pupils in tears, have been imposed.'

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RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 24/02/2023 13:53

It feels to me like these kids are making a mockery of things like the Me Too movement

yeah? I don’t reckon thats right

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 13:53

They are upset at being singled out for uniform checks where the boys are not. And their skirts aren't too short, a few might be, but the majority won't be. They'll be subjected to these checks too.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 24/02/2023 13:52

Dd went through a stage probably in year 9 of wearing a skirt, got picked up constantly not just for length but also for wearing socks with tights (ridiculous fucking rule and i told them that…but without the fucking part)

she moved to trousers in year 10, the trousers were also against school rules but no one ever said anything to her…because if they did they’d have to comment on the boys trousers as well 🤔

CowboyHat · 24/02/2023 13:50

They’re upset because the skirt length inspection meant they were separated from the boys? Why would the boys need to be there? It doesn’t make any sense at all.

The uniform policy is what it is. If anyone, male or female, isn’t following it then the school have every right to let those children know. This has been the case since the dawn of time. When I was at school the girls were kept behind after assembly for the same reason and told to roll our ridiculously short skirts down. No one ended up in tears! And it would have been inappropriate and embarrassing to do this with the boys still present.

It feels to me like these kids are making a mockery of things like the Me Too movement. Their skirts are too short. End of.

PuttingDownRoots · 24/02/2023 13:47

Girls rolling up skirts is a decade's old harmless piece of rebellion.

With the exception of ties, boys uniform never seems to be policed... with girls its that skirt is too short, those trousers are too tight, those buttons don't do up properly...

While generally a "fan" of uniform... the sexualisation and policing of it is the biggest reason I can see for binning it! General rule for boys and girls that knees, shoulders, and torsos should be covered, no profanities. Have school colours if you must.

AlisonDonut · 24/02/2023 13:46

Men measuring the skirt length of girls? Sounds like a safeguarding nightmare. What the fuck are they thinking?

TheAdmiralAndFishermanFavorEntirelyDifferentPies · 24/02/2023 13:44

DD's school has a skirt with a special coloured strip around the waistband- supposedly so the teachers could easily see if the skirt had been rolled over around the waistband. £26 a pop, and only one waist size per skirt length so if you were tall and skinny, to get a knee length skirt there would be masses of material around the waist. And did I mention £26 per skirt.

They've now introduced trousers.

mach2 · 24/02/2023 13:43

A Leeds school has seen similar protests.

www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/hundreds-pupils-protest-outside-leeds-26320301

And a riot in a Cornish school

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/live-updates-penrice-academy-riot-8184993

After toilet rule changes that include

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/penrice-academy-st-austell-under-8102995

only going to the bathroom outside of lesson time and girls requesting red cards passes when they are on their period.

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 13:43

This school's uniform policy requires the girls in years 7 to 11 to wear a skirt. There's no option for trousers on the uniform code and the code is split by sex.

I'm not surprised given their old fashioned methods for checking skirt length.

Uniform should be comfortable as well as smart enough, and should be flexible to cater for every height and shape combination. Especially for girls who already face being made to feel awkward about their bodies as they grow.

caraloft · 24/02/2023 13:40

It's high time that school uniform actually includes a choice of trousers, that suit different female bodies, as well a skirts. Then, maybe girls wouldn't roll up the their polyester knee length skirts.

IcakethereforeIam · 24/02/2023 13:37

My kids school started this thing where girls had to wear skirts with the school logo embroidered on them just below the waist band. The idea being, if a teacher thought the girls skirt was too short, they could say 'show us your logo' (they actually put that phrase in the parent info.). It was supposed to stop girls rolling their skirts up to shorten them.

It was as creepy as fuck and, of course, the logo's skirts were much more expensive. It turned out they were badly made and the scheme was suspended as they literally fell apart.

I bought them trousers which were cheaper because they didn't have to be logo's. I then stopped paying attention as it didn't affect my family. My kids aren't at that school now, I don't know if they're still doing it.

I'm feeling quite nostalgic, it was only a few years ago but before genderwoo became such a thing. Life coming at you fast.

It's shockingly sexist. But easier to police the victims than teach the boys.

ArabellaScott · 24/02/2023 13:31

Not a fan of uniform in general, but I think there's arguments for making sure that clothing is not indecent. But the protests weren't about the length rule, per se:

'Rainford sixth form student, Summer, who took part in the protest on Wednesday, said: "It's annoying [the teachers] think we're protesting against the rule, [but] we're protesting how its being implemented - to have girls separated from boys. It's humiliating, and girls are leaving lessons crying.'

Heartening to hear boys were sticking up for girls by wearing skirts over their trousers.

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MsDemeanors · 24/02/2023 13:26

This has happened at my kids' school too. Memorably, girls were told that they needed to address their skirt length "so as not to be a distraction to male students and staff". Because it's of course the fault of the females that the males can't control themselves.

I am delighted to hear that students are protesting these archaic attitudes. I'm furious the protest is needed.

Boiledbeetle · 24/02/2023 13:25

We should be past this kind of shit by now.

Boiledbeetle · 24/02/2023 13:24

Same shit different century!

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