I live in Rosie Duffields constituency. Just had local election door knock from labour party

I had a Labour candidate knock today. I said 'I won't be voting Labour any time soon'. He asked why, I said 'because I know what a woman is, and your party doesn't seem to'. He immediately got aggressive and said 'Oh, and the Tories do?' I hadn't said I was voting for them either. Prick.

And this shower are the alternative to the Tories…..ye gods and baby fishes 🫣

She told me that the candidate (early 20s, male) could come & explain it to me.

Two women in our 60s standing there & a 20-something man would need to explain what a woman is to us.

I’m afraid at that point I started laughing derisively.

Priceless! 😂

his stance is that its not that simple, i am being brainwashed by the right wing media, and that Rosie is in fact, (drumroll please...), mainly being supported by American right wing anti abortion groups.

I know you've filled in an online form, but she may not see this.

Email her!

This is outrageous. I'm so angry

You’d have to me crazy to vote for that lot.

I'm tempted to suggest you make a complaint to the Labour Party (Governance and Legal Unit) but that's hard unless you get the guy's name. He'll be a volunteer, maybe not a candidate, loosely controlled by the local party. Perhaps a letter to the local constituency secretary might be more useful, so you don't need to target a named individual, but can point out how insulting their doorstep points are to any woman who knows her stuff. Rosie's local CLP have recently decided she is to stand again, so she does have majority support. They should be interested to know what you have to say: [email protected]

Brava OP! Well done for speaking up. Kudos to all the other posters who have done so too.

I had those exact same comments last year from Labour on the doorstep.
Their tactics:
1 its complicated
2 this is a local election
3 has this actually impacted you personally
Then at the end of our discussion I got "Perhaps you should try to be more compassionate?" I have some transgender surgery photos on my phone for next time they knock!

Well done!

It’s disturbing - not surprising you were shaking.

What is wrong with the CLP? Do the local candidates support her?

I had a run-in with a canvasser for the Greens - I asked her what a woman was. She blushed to the roots of her hair & said “is it about the trans issue?”. I said “no it’s about women. Women’s rights & women’s existence, and your policies”.

She told me that the candidate (early 20s, male) could come & explain it to me.

Two women in our 60s standing there & a 20-something man would need to explain what a woman is to us.

I’m afraid at that point I started laughing derisively.

With hindsight there are a million clever things i could have said, should have raised. Whatever.

Oh gawd hope you didn't think my comment above was criticising your response! I was meaning to just think through why these particular misogynists piss me off so much.

My verbal response to this kind of unexpected encounter, when put on the spot, is always hampered by fear. I always have to follow up in writing.

Well done for challenging him and reporting

Briefing against your MP behind their back while supposedly campaigning for the same party? Too bloody right you should report him, and copy in Rosie.

IANAL, but I believe it's slander if verbal and libel if written.

I raised this issue with Labour canvassers back in 2019 (different constituency). Raised the TW is women's prisons and women getting raped in prison. He looked baffled for a few minutes then, when he realised what I was saying, quietly and reasonably, he started screaming and screaming and screaming. He literally screamed in my face on my doorstep then backed away heading to the next house still screaming over and over again 'TWAW'.

These people aren't sane, they really aren't.

When these people - often men - say "vote for us or the anti-abortionists will get in" (op's example was a slight variation, but same theme) they are unwittingly acknowledging a couple of things.

1. That there is a class of human who might need an abortion.

2. That this right to abortion is precarious and could be taken away again. If it was not a precarious right, there'd be nothing gained by them bringing it up.

3. I'd argue that understanding 2) implies knowing that the potential-abortion-needing class has much less power in society. Otherwise this right would not be precarious.

4. And I'd argue that threatening the removal of the right to abortion if you don't vote for them implies a knowledge, perhaps subconscious, of this system of opression against the potential-abortion-needing class. Because that's exactly what they're exploiting by making the threat.

So having established he knows what a woman is, and what opression under a patriarchy is about, I'd want to ask why, Mr Righteously Left Wing Man, do YOU care so little about women's right to abortion, that you are prepared to risk it by backing a policy which dismantles everyday safeguarding for women and children?

You could tweet her a link to this thread?

What an arsehole he is and how dare he say that about her.
Yes OP report him.

And well done to you.💪

Yes, I'd like to see his response to any of:
' There is no point my daughter competing in X sport because a biological boy can say he's a girl and beat her easily' (e.g. Lia Thomas)
' I am / I know other women are self-excluding from mixed sex spaces (which are labelled 'woman's so lying to everyone about what they are) because I have past trauma that means I have a panic attack if alone with a strange male bodied person / my religion prohibits sharing these spaces with male bodied people'.
'Did you hear the woman ex-prisoner who had a coil fitted as she was so scared of being raped by the men who claim to be women incarcerated with her? Don't you think that constitutes a breach of human rights?'

With something a little more detailed than 'it's complicated'. It's not. Women say no. Men don't like that and they frame their refusal to accept 'no' as 'complicated'. We know the type of men who do that.

He said what now?! 😮

'more complicated than you think' ????
talk about mansplaining
I would have really struggled to remain civil after that
I'm going to hazard a guess that this man was young enough to be OPs son.

On the plus side we are learning their tactics
1 its complicated
2 this is a local election
3 has this actually impacted you personally

so it's easy to reply to those

but report definitely

Well done for standing your ground

OP if you go to Rosie’s website then you can email her, if you record the time & general area, as pp says, they might be able to work out who it was 🤞

Sorry posted too soon, I think saying she's funded by American right wing abortion groups is libellous and I hope she sues him for libel.

Is anyone else getting the sense that rather than admit that middle aged, kind, caring women who volunteer, take care of their kids and have been all round nice people and left leaning for decades might have a point about single sex spaces, misogynistic men are willing to believe that we've all had a massive personality change and got taken in by the right wing on this one issue only.

You'd think the lack of logic would floor them but no, misogyny is a powerful motivation to believe the impossible, seemingly. It's conspiracy theory territory really.

Women can't possibly think for themselves and actually want spaces free from male bodies, oh no, it's all right wing anti-abortion propoganda. Could he even HEAR himself? Next time record it.

Defamation of character surely. I would write and explain what he said in an open letter and ask him to back up his claims.