Page 12 | I live in Rosie Duffields constituency. Just had local election door knock from labour party

BadgerWadger · 2023-02-22T16:08:44+00:00

He asked what my main concerns were. I said my main issue was that i stood with Rosie and felt that Labour, as a party, from the top down, did not offer her enough support. And my main concern was womens safe spaces. Man said, well, this is local elections and not about that, and that issue is more complicated than you think. What are your concerns, locally? I said the local council is involved in issues to do with womens safe spaces. Like the womens refuges, the womans changing room at the local pool, etc. All spaces where biological men should not have access and that womens safe spaces was my main concern. There followed a debate. And his stance is that its not that simple, i am being brainwashed by the right wing media, and that Rosie is in fact, (drumroll please...), mainly being supported by American right wing anti abortion groups. Arrrrrghhhhhh. So that is where my local labour door knockers are at. Saying Rosies main core of support is American right wing anti abortion groups and i am being fooled by them. Silly, foolish, female me.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:22

mirax · 22/02/2023 22:19

The mendacious bullshit in this. The executive function of government is to ensure law and order via organs of the state ie the bloody fucking police. If you have harassment supposedly inside a public library - you call the police as first recourse and second recourse. Repeatedly writing to the MP sounds rather like harassment from a far left bully.

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Oh dear. Asking your representative to raise concerns with government about the safety of the public is “harassment” now? Are you jot that fussed about women and children being intimidated by neo-Nazis? Bit weird on Mumsnet to come across that kind of argument. Surely you should be arguing that government should ensure they are better protracted? I don’t really understand your argument here.

mirax · 22/02/2023 22:19

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:04

Sorry, you think government shouldn’t take steps to protect the public and public sector workers? I mean, that’s certainly a take, but one that seems to be so far to the right it makes Suella Braverman look like a communist.

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The mendacious bullshit in this. The executive function of government is to ensure law and order via organs of the state ie the bloody fucking police. If you have harassment supposedly inside a public library - you call the police as first recourse and second recourse. Repeatedly writing to the MP sounds rather like harassment from a far left bully.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:11

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 22:09

I live in her constituency too. Haven’t had a door knock yet - just a leaflet. But if they come knocking…

I agree @drwitch - if the cesspit that is the CRG is anything to go by.

That’s funny. CRG often gets complaints that people aren’t allowed to be racist on there. I do hope that fact isn’t why you think it’s a cesspit?

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 22:09

I live in her constituency too. Haven’t had a door knock yet - just a leaflet. But if they come knocking…

I agree @drwitch - if the cesspit that is the CRG is anything to go by.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:06

Apollo441 · 22/02/2023 21:34

@ijclark So nothing to do with her views on women's rights?

Oh of course. I think her rejection of feminism is a problem too. Also a bit weird that I sent her evidence of targeted harassment of a female colleague a couple of years back and she didn’t even reply (her colleague’s office did to thank me for raising it though).

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:04

BettyFilous · 22/02/2023 21:47

If you have neo Nazis threatening other library users in your place of work why haven’t you called the police? Sounds like you aren’t targeting your complaints particularly effectively, or in a way that protects your service users. 🤷‍♀️

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Sorry, you think government shouldn’t take steps to protect the public and public sector workers? I mean, that’s certainly a take, but one that seems to be so far to the right it makes Suella Braverman look like a communist.

drwitch · 22/02/2023 22:00

Im also in her constituency but left the local labour party because of Corbyn. But locally the party is very split on this I think

BettyFilous · 22/02/2023 21:47

ijclark · 22/02/2023 21:03

Sure. I guess first of all she was found to have breached UK GDPR by publicly revealing “special category data” about a constituent without their consent. Which is a major breach of trust for any MP to indulge in when it comes to her constituents.

I suppose I could follow that up with the fact I’ve emailed her THREE times about neo-Nazis threatening and intimidating members of the public inside and outside libraries and asked her to take action/raise it within the party. I’ve still not received a response. Even though I’m a library worker who lives in her constituency.

I guess there’s two reasons to begin with.

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If you have neo Nazis threatening other library users in your place of work why haven’t you called the police? Sounds like you aren’t targeting your complaints particularly effectively, or in a way that protects your service users. 🤷‍♀️

Apollo441 · 22/02/2023 21:34

@ijclark So nothing to do with her views on women's rights?

ijclark · 22/02/2023 21:03

DaisyCornflowerBlue · 22/02/2023 20:46

Please provide evidence of how dreadful an MP Rosie is.

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Sure. I guess first of all she was found to have breached UK GDPR by publicly revealing “special category data” about a constituent without their consent. Which is a major breach of trust for any MP to indulge in when it comes to her constituents.

I suppose I could follow that up with the fact I’ve emailed her THREE times about neo-Nazis threatening and intimidating members of the public inside and outside libraries and asked her to take action/raise it within the party. I’ve still not received a response. Even though I’m a library worker who lives in her constituency.

I guess there’s two reasons to begin with.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 22/02/2023 20:50

Rosie seems a brilliant MP to me!
+I really admire the way she has stayed standing despite all efforts to intimidate her.

DaisyCornflowerBlue · 22/02/2023 20:46

ijclark · 22/02/2023 20:24

To be fair, she’s a dreadful MP so I’m glad to hear the local candidates are distancing themselves from her. I might even vote Labour come the local election after all.

Please provide evidence of how dreadful an MP Rosie is.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 20:38

That she’s still a Labour MP? Absolutely.

MoltenLasagne · 22/02/2023 20:33

That is shocking, what an example of many of the things wrong with the Labour Party.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 20:24

To be fair, she’s a dreadful MP so I’m glad to hear the local candidates are distancing themselves from her. I might even vote Labour come the local election after all.

Codlingmoths · 22/02/2023 20:07

Absolutely complain! And add if you have canvassers who believe women are stupid, which is basically what he said to me despite him having no grasp of these concepts, then perhaps you shouldn't let them talk to women voters? And you wonder why you're not winning elections.

DrBlackbird · 22/02/2023 20:04

'more complicated than you think' ????
talk about mansplaining

I had that from a man "it’s complicated" and I said, no it’s really not.

SueVineer · 22/02/2023 20:02

Good for you. How patronizing was he!

SinnerBoy · 22/02/2023 19:49

BadgerWadger · Today 17:38

Good on you for complaining. They will know who it is, as they know which people are assigned to which set of streets.

Please keep us informed and show us the -fobbing off- letter of apology!

SinnerBoy · 22/02/2023 19:47

TheBiologyStupid · Today 17:29

IANAL, but I believe it's slander if verbal and libel if written.

Yes, that's correct; both can be defamatory.

EpicChaos · 22/02/2023 19:46

Toseland · 22/02/2023 18:06

I had those exact same comments last year from Labour on the doorstep.
Their tactics:
1 its complicated
2 this is a local election
3 has this actually impacted you personally
Then at the end of our discussion I got "Perhaps you should try to be more compassionate?" I have some transgender surgery photos on my phone for next time they knock!

Maybe we should put a list of points together, that we can print off and keep near the door, just in case canvassers turn up?

Poor Rosie! Having men with that attitude going around possibly losing votes for her.
With friends ( canvassers ) like that, who needs enemies?!

bellac11 · 22/02/2023 19:32

I had one round the door.

He was well meaning enough, fairly young I think but really didnt know much of what I was talking about. Said I wasnt the first person to raise it with him that day but then said he was 'shocked and appalled' that a rapist was in a womens prison - I cut him short and said, 'hes not the only one and its not even (that much) about him being a rapist. I told him about crime stats for child sexual assault and rape being recorded as being committed by women, he looked like he didnt believe that and said 'well we'll certainlly look into that'.

I said I was politically homeless now, never been a Tory voter and wont be but until Labour are fully understanding and protecting against this I cant vote for them and this is a mega tory area so they cant afford to lose voters like me

If I hadnt been feeling unwell I could have said more.

Tanith · 22/02/2023 19:27

MistyMooninabluesky · 22/02/2023 19:07

And this shower are the alternative to the Tories…..ye gods and baby fishes 🫣

You might want to check out the views of the Canterbury Conservative Leader Ben Fitter-Harding, who has condemned Rosie’s “transphobia”.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/02/2023 19:27

I raised this issue with Labour canvassers back in 2019 (different constituency). Raised the TW is women's prisons and women getting raped in prison. He looked baffled for a few minutes then, when he realised what I was saying, quietly and reasonably, he started screaming and screaming and screaming. He literally screamed in my face on my doorstep then backed away heading to the next house still screaming over and over again 'TWAW'.

That's hilarious. It isn't really, but I'd have to laugh at him. The cognitive dissonance of these people is off the scale.

WishIWasACavewoman · 22/02/2023 19:09

Well done OP!

In the run-up to the last election, the LibDem canvasser knocked on my door (different constituency). I politely explained that I'd actually recently resigned as a party member because of their stance on women's rights and asked whether this would be addressed so that I could vote for them again. After a few blank seconds he said: "do you mean the Rosie Duffield thing?" I said: "yes, if you like, the Rosie Duffield thing" and he quite literally ran away!

Rosie is apparently doorstep kryptonite