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I live in Rosie Duffields constituency. Just had local election door knock from labour party

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BadgerWadger · 22/02/2023 16:08

He asked what my main concerns were. I said my main issue was that i stood with Rosie and felt that Labour, as a party, from the top down, did not offer her enough support. And my main concern was womens safe spaces.

Man said, well, this is local elections and not about that, and that issue is more complicated than you think. What are your concerns, locally?

I said the local council is involved in issues to do with womens safe spaces. Like the womens refuges, the womans changing room at the local pool, etc. All spaces where biological men should not have access and that womens safe spaces was my main concern.

There followed a debate. And his stance is that its not that simple, i am being brainwashed by the right wing media, and that Rosie is in fact, (drumroll please...), mainly being supported by American right wing anti abortion groups.

Arrrrrghhhhhh. So that is where my local labour door knockers are at. Saying Rosies main core of support is American right wing anti abortion groups and i am being fooled by them. Silly, foolish, female me.

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DaisyCornflowerBlue · 22/02/2023 23:37

Genital inspections 😂. I think both sexes can identify whether a person is male or female pretty quickly on meeting them, regardless of how they identify or what they are wearing.

Pixiedust1234 · 22/02/2023 23:36

Well done OP. What an unpleasant man than canvesser was. He'd obviously been brainwashed to say that particular phrase, they just can't help giving themselves away.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:36

VictorStrand · 22/02/2023 23:34

It's all so blatant. And when this house of cards falls apart. As it's already starting to do, one consolation is that there is so much evidence of the bullying, the cheating, the threats and the sex denial bullshit.
Political parties are going to have to consider how they stop themselves being infiltrated by cultists. It would have been unthinkable in the past for an 'alleged' Labour canvasser to brief against their own sitting candidate using a mix of misdirection and outright lies.

Wait until you hear about what happens in 2017 and 2019. It’ll blow your mind.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:35

If it’s true they were “flashing their penis” then of course it’s unacceptable. But let’s not forget here that men have been able to walk into women’s changing rooms since the year dot. Not sure why now all of a sudden we need to introduce genital inspections. Other than to give a pervs a job of course.

VictorStrand · 22/02/2023 23:34

It's all so blatant. And when this house of cards falls apart. As it's already starting to do, one consolation is that there is so much evidence of the bullying, the cheating, the threats and the sex denial bullshit.
Political parties are going to have to consider how they stop themselves being infiltrated by cultists. It would have been unthinkable in the past for an 'alleged' Labour canvasser to brief against their own sitting candidate using a mix of misdirection and outright lies.

Waitwhat23 · 22/02/2023 23:31

Nah, it's just TRA bingo.

I live in Rosie Duffields constituency. Just had local election door knock from labour party
PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:30

ThatWasThat · 22/02/2023 23:29

Is ijclark a bot? Seems to be making up an imaginary conversation

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No - definitely not a bot.

ThatWasThat · 22/02/2023 23:29

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:15

Get some books on feminism, that might be a good start :)

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Is ijclark a bot? Seems to be making up an imaginary conversation

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:29

In the University of East Anglia case, no inspection was required - he was flashing his penis. He was male.

Do you really think that’s acceptable?

Could have used a cubicle but CHOSE to get his penis out in a communal FEMALE area.

CampervanKween · 22/02/2023 23:27

The only people showing their genitalia in public are generally pervy men. Again, wankers.

CampervanKween · 22/02/2023 23:24

Absolutely. Nor in women's sports, they already dominate sports in general. They're so greedy and entitled that they can't even leave women their pitifully underfunded sporting events. Wankers.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:24

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:22

Males should not be in female safe spaces. Full stop.

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People should not be required to show their genitalia before they enter a space. That’s completely inappropriate.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:22

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:21

The woman said a viable solution would be for safeguarding checks to be carried out on members to ensure women feel safe using female-only facilities.

But added: "I think it should come down to biology - if you have male biology you use the male changing rooms and female biology use female rooms."

Bit wild calling for genital inspections isn’t it?

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Males should not be in female safe spaces. Full stop.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:22

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That’s a bit rude, I don’t think @PopGoesTheProsecco is a “knob”. I disagree with them, but they’re not a knob.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:21

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:15

Here’s the link. Basically, woman complains about an exposed penis in her supposedly safe ‘female’ space and gets told ‘it’s complicated’. No, it’s not.

Also, what about religious beliefs? They’re protected too aren’t they? So some religions have separate male and female prayer areas - whose rights trumps whose?

www.edp24.co.uk/news/23309722.naked-man-reported-female-change-room-uea-sportspark/

The woman said a viable solution would be for safeguarding checks to be carried out on members to ensure women feel safe using female-only facilities.

But added: "I think it should come down to biology - if you have male biology you use the male changing rooms and female biology use female rooms."

Bit wild calling for genital inspections isn’t it?

CampervanKween · 22/02/2023 23:16

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PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:15

Here’s the link. Basically, woman complains about an exposed penis in her supposedly safe ‘female’ space and gets told ‘it’s complicated’. No, it’s not.

Also, what about religious beliefs? They’re protected too aren’t they? So some religions have separate male and female prayer areas - whose rights trumps whose?

www.edp24.co.uk/news/23309722.naked-man-reported-female-change-room-uea-sportspark/

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:15

TheFireflies · 22/02/2023 23:14

What on Earth are you talking about? None of your posts make any sense at all.

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Get some books on feminism, that might be a good start :)

TheFireflies · 22/02/2023 23:14

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:08

Wild how quickly this thread descended into “I believe in feminism, but not for women of colour”.

Second-wave feminism still grappling with the idea of emancipation for all women I see…

What on Earth are you talking about? None of your posts make any sense at all.

WinterMusings · 22/02/2023 23:13

@BadgerWadger patronising wanker.

'It's more complicated than you think'

errr no, it's really not you twinkle & despite being a mere woman, I can do 'complicated'

fuck off! He wouldn't have got as far as Rosie.

CampervanKween · 22/02/2023 23:10

I used to have a stack of Fair Play For Women leaflets by the door and I would hand them out to canvassers. It was an easy way to get the information out. I once gave one to a labour candidate who said he'd go away and research and get back to me.

VictorStrand · 22/02/2023 23:09

The funny thing is that when the Labour Party is asked about this eg the infamous Jess Phillips' interview - they always pretend no-one is mentioning it on the doorsteps. That's why it's good to let Rosie and the party know too.
Lots of people are talking about the erosion of women's rights on the doorstep, in shops, in universities, outside student unions, etc.

CampervanKween · 22/02/2023 23:08

Wasn't it Labour who brought in the ridiculous Gender Recognition Act in 2004. That so needs to be repealed. It's a complete nonsense.

ijclark · 22/02/2023 23:08

Wild how quickly this thread descended into “I believe in feminism, but not for women of colour”.

Second-wave feminism still grappling with the idea of emancipation for all women I see…

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/02/2023 23:05

ijclark · 22/02/2023 22:54

Certainly used to be bad, but it’s got a lot better now all the bigots know they can’t post without being held to account. It’s actually become quite run off the mill now, which is nice :)

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Not the last time I looked - I thought I’d blocked the bigots (GR was a mare).

I think women’s genuine concerns are not being taken seriously. We need a calm and serious discourse about this. Two weeks ago at the University of East Anglia a woman reported a male (on two separate occasions) being in the communal ‘female’ changing rooms with his tackle out. There were cubicles available, the male chose not to use them but instead to expose himself to females. There was no reason for the male to be getting his penis out on show in a ‘safe’ female space.

When the woman complained, her complaint was minimised. This is not right.9