KJK opposing fertility treatment for gay couples

Here you go, OP.

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zybbkqt/articles/zwb6xbk

@SapphosRock You know KJK does a phone in show on Tuesday nights? Why don't you call in and ask her how babies are made? Since you don't seem to believe any of us.

It's the false teaming again. The far right, iirc, with the previous thread on a SFW when a groupuscle (was that the phrase?) was seen and now with the homophobia, because someone quote tweeted her. This time it tending towards the language of an abuser, 'look what your words made happen'.

I'm sure Sapphos hopes to put some women off from giving their support.
That's one possibility.

100% correct.

They need sperm to conceive which comes from a man. To compare that to someone crippled in an accident who is a man in unconscionable. I deal with catastrophically injured men and women in my professional life. It is a disgrace you are using them as a prop in an argument about who is entitled to funding vs two women who want to have a baby. The context is not remotely comparable.

Nobody has the right to extract sperm or eggs from another human and use them to create a new human.

Well they do need a man to provide sperm.

it’s not immaculate conception

however the sperm is delivered

I used to feel sorry for you sapphos when you wrote about your partner.

no longer. You trolling everyone here

don’t know why you are doing this ?

have you asked kjk yet or you happy getting attention here ?

is this what this is about. Attention seeking

of to bed. Let you crack on with your seeking of attention.

ps. Ask KJK. But you won’t. Too afraid 😧

Where else would one get human sperm from, if not a man?

That weird sperm from skin cell shit has only worked on mice so far.

It does seem the world has gone a bit weird and some people are getting very entitled to a baby.

If anyone, man or woman, wants to become a parent, they need to be nice to a member of the opposite sex, and to have whatever appeal necessary, for someone of the opposite sex to want to ProCreate with them.

There are a lot of straight people, both women and men, who, for whatever reason are unable to find someone to make babies with. I know loads of straight women who are childless because they didn’t find a man to have kids with in good time. Obviously lesbians and gay men have a more complicated situation for finding a member of the opposite sex to ProCreate with.

However.

No woman, straight, bi or lesbian, is entitled to have a man father a child for her.
No man, straight, bi or gay, is entitled to have a woman mother a child for him.

It is not the duty of the State to work around this conundrum for anyone.

I’m infertile.

It’s fucking insulting to compare my struggles and damaged body with the healthy body of a fertile lesbian who could conceive anytime she wants if she had sex with a man. If that isn’t her sexual preference that doesn’t mean she’s infertile.

Well if they want a baby they will need sperm. Male, human sperm. From a man. Jesus wept.

Grow up.

Are you going to stamp your feet next?

That's to Eyerollcentral

You constantly repeating it? They do need sperm. Sperm is produced by men. Children of 4 can understand this

No. They need a sperm donor. No one is saying they need to have sex with a man, although that is one way to get sperm.

Sapphos is obsessed with KJK. I believe that Sapphos saw this tweet, decided it was convincing "evidence" that KJK is a bad 'un, and thought it would sow some seeds of doubt. Sapphos spends a lot of time thinking about KJK and how to discredit her. No one knows why. I don't know who reported KJK to the police, but I'm sure Sapphos hopes to put some women off from giving their support.

Im gonna tell ds1 and boyfriend that they are infertile

i might do it over Sunday lunch 🤔

im off to bed…night all

No, I was wondering what intervention would be made by the NHS in such a case assuming the couple wanted it. Lesbians are not by default infertile, but do need help to conceive. Don't be so emotive yourself.

Saving gametes due to illness/injury doesn’t automatically get you the right to use them via IVF later anyway.

My daughter has ovarian tissue in the deep freeze due to childhood cancer.
The NHS paid for removal and storage but we were warned that there might not be any funding available for IUI or IVF if reimplanting it doesn’t allow her to conceive via sex/home insemination (no idea what her sexual orientation will be yet).

www.royalfree.nhs.uk/services/services-a-z/gynaecology/ovarian-tissue-freezing-and-transplantation-service/

According to this board the lesbian couple just need to find a man to have sex with and lie back and think of England.

Get a grip. One person said it was an option if you were that desperate for a child but otherwise no one thinks lesbians should have to have sex with men, we say as much frequently.

Gay men do not have sex with women in order to have children, they have a wank and supply their semen and a syringe to their potential surrogate. You haven't given a reason about why this is not a suitable solution for lesbians who do not have medically diagnosed infertility.

According to KJK only the straight couple's fertility issues are valid.

That's a lie.

According to this board the lesbian couple just need to find a man to have sex with and lie back and think of England.

That's also a lie. Pp have said that they need a sperm donor. Sperm + egg = baby is not a fertility issue.

Sapphos you've jumped the shark. I can't take this seriously.

No they are a couple with fertility issues due to lack of sperm. A lesbian couple also has fertility issues due to lack of sperm.

No, they are a couple with a male who has fertility issues because he is unable to produce sperm despite the biological capacity that should exist for him to do so.

A lesbian couple have never, and will never have the biological capacity to produce sperm.

Your fixation with fertility is bizarre.

That would require honesty.