Anyone else hearing of backlash against trans ideology among their teens?

Ha yes, that day's not welcome in our house either Crypto. I'm not nagging her to get a job either.

You are being wilfully hyperbolic.

I think you are correct. This is a U.S exported phenomena and until the push back really takes hold there it will cling on everywhere else. Even though in The U.k we are leading the charge - we cannot do it in isolation.

Different countries are at different stages. Some only just adopting it; some having already legitimised Self Id; some just about to pass Self Id; some starting to draw back from child transition, and so on. hopefully

After the lockdown one girl returned to my granddaughter's primary school ( about 10 years old) and declared she was now a boy. The school had not come across this before, but they permiitted her to wear the PE tracksuit, rather than the girls school uniform.

The girl's friends, of a similar age, were confused and a bit upset when she insisted on calling them " transphobic" whenever they accidentally 'misgendered' her. That was not very kind. You see, It works both ways.

Many children and teenagers can see this for what it is, but they are still expected to bend over backwards and contort both themselves, and the language, in order to accommodate such preciousness.

I'm sure there are many children who have emotional and other difficulties in their family lives and in their own growing identity, but they don't expect to be centred and treated more specially than anyone else.

Well done!

We’ve had some wavering and 6 months of desisting followed by a doubling down based on a new friendship group (met at an LGBT youth club that school referred to 🤦‍♀️)
Out of that school now tho and the appeal seems to be fading. Bit worried about her upcoming access to her Tony Blair Bux (New Labour Child Trust Fund) but trying to whistle nonchalantly about it all as nothing beds a rebellious teen in faster and harder than parental disapproval.

This is the problem right here isnt it, that the labelling of someone who is no nonsense, not easily groomed into it and is a critical thinker is 'a bit mean'.

The sad thing is they, the “bearded little transmen “, will never recover, some of the effects of testosterone are irreversible, and some, like diminished bone density might only become apparent in the future. These poor kids have wrecked their health.

Blackpool has both one of the highest deprivation rates and the highest proportion of children in care in the country, and they also happen to have the highest rate of trans identifing young people.

I believe that in Canada, homeless and other vulnerable young people are actively targeted.

Crypto somehow I managed to get dd to hang on with the name change until after GCSEs despite her being 16 now.

There are definitely some activist teachers who are forever pushing this stuff.

Do you think she should Be a bit Kinder?

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Your daughter sounds a bit mean

It wasn’t a problem for us because DD is a summer baby and thus sat her GCSEs at 15.
At 16 she was able to change her name legally and without parental permission. Fingers crossed she’s ditched her (Victorian orphan) boy name by the end of A levels.

Anyone with a trans identifying teen who turns 16 in the early part of the academic year needs to be aware of this - especially as if the trans identity does stick into adulthood an individual can get certificates changed free of charge at a later date by written request to exam boards - absolutely no need for teens to rush in and do it in the first instance.

Mad that we can get child benefit for them until they are 19 (if in full time ed) but that they can change their legal name without parental input at 16.

I find myself wondering how many GCSE certs are going to have to be reissued due to desistence from the trans identity listed on the paperwork!

My school exam officer made it very clear to us that our exam certificates should be in our legal name - only way DD1 and her friends knew this - and that it could be a problem in job market was because we told them.

So I too wonder if this will be an increasing issue for some.

There are other MNers with this issue @Mykittensmittens. I'm not sure which board they post on, but do an advanced search and you should find them and their posts.

You'll get largely support and sympathy, I suspect. MN is generally pretty gender critical, not least because this is a feminist issue, but also because ultimately we're talking about DC who may do themselves permanent and serious harm if they take puberty blockers/cross-sex hormones. We also know that many of these DC are autistic, have MH problems, may be victims of abuse, and many of them are gay or bisexual. The new book about the Tavistock clinic Time to Think by Hannah Barnes has evidence that there are parents out there who'd rather have a trans DC than a gay one. How fucked up is that?

Agree.

These are individuals who push to destroy women’s rights, to destroy children’s puberty, encourage sterilisation, self harm and lifelong medication. They tell children to hide this from their parents and offer so-called ‘glitter families. They are linked with the promotion of pornography and fetish to children. Ridicule is the least they deserve.

@Radi06music You lost me when you said that this thread reminded you of Andrew Tate. Wow.

I think it is often the children who are unpopular, yes. And this is a way / has been a way to gain some sort of notoriety or status. Adolescence has always been hard, finding your place in the world has always been hard - this was a way to make your mark!

The problem with this is so vast that you could write a book on it, but to boil it down, encouraging ridicule from their peer group by dressing up as the opposite sex or wearing a tail is totally irresponsible on the part of the adults involved - they are weak adults. These children need support in finding their strengths and their talents so they can truly find their place in the world not wasting their time on this pile of dogshit

Thank you Helle. I could be one of your friends except I've been able to see this coming and I've been reading here for years.

Yes, one of my children attend a similar type of school in Glasgow. It was mostly girls identifying as boys. They got access to the boys bathrooms so the boys refused to use them. It was a nightmare.

In fairness you have waded in, all guns blazing. Would you rather we all lied about what our teens are telling us?

It certainly isn't for 'the cool kids'.
After all, isn't it supposedly a 'real' thing, not a fashion or trend?

Not sure anyone has ever made a link between the weight of any individual & their susceptibility to a cult though, other than you.

Is that what you are personally afraid is the truth about who follows this ideology?

I agree.

The rainbows-everywhere-trans-activist parents are a very vocal minority - most parents are either terrified into compliance by the suicide statistics/threats of family alienation or are trying their best to be gently skeptical (often with the school going directly against their parental wishes).