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Silencing Women event, Swansea University, 8 March

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pattihews · 19/02/2023 20:20

I know Swansea's a long way from most places but please support this event if you can. Professors Jo Phoenix, Alice Sullivan and Judith Suissa are trekking out west to participate in this ground-breaking event for Wales. On International Women's Day they'll be talking at Swansea University's Taliesin Arts Centre about their struggles for academic freedom and the right to use sex-based research. Joan Smith, journalist and Sex Matters Advisory Board member will chair. This is really important for Wales, where gender ideology is backed by a Labour government that's been in power for 23 years and is so confident in its ability to win the next election that it's decided it doesn't need to consult with women and minorities affected by its plans.

As you can imagine, the pushback has started. There are petitions and protests about the safety of transpeople on the university campus. But still we persist.

Please book a ticket and come if you can. Or buy a solidarity ticket in the back few rows of the auditorium: if you talk to the box office the ticket can be offered to local women who can't afford to pay. Or circulate the publicity among all your social networks. Perhaps someone, somewhere will have a contact in Swansea who'd like to come and meet other like-minded people.
Thank you.

Silencing Women event, Swansea University, 8 March
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BastardtheCat · 10/03/2023 06:50

Gutted I missed this. I'm just down the road too

wantmorenow · 09/03/2023 20:19

@EnfysPreseli thanks -explains why I can't find it. 😕Would be great to have the link if you have it.😀Just did their post event survey for the arts centre - gender question on it not sex. Followed up with an email explaining why I found the survey to be pushing gender theory rather than evidence and fact based data. Think I'm getting the hang of this quiet and polite activism now . Think they may get many more emails if people try to fill in their survey.

pattihews · 09/03/2023 18:37

It was a good evening. I managed to talk to several women sitting around me and I'm meeting up with a couple of them next week to cement our contact. They thought they were the only GC women in South Wales and were delighted to see 200+ more!

The protesters were kept so far apart from the entrance to the arts centre that we didn't see or hear them and had to go and find them to take photographs.

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EnfysPreseli · 09/03/2023 17:34

I think the video mentioned was of Helen Joyce at the Education for Women's Liberation conference at UCL, not of Kathleen Stock.

Mizzem · 09/03/2023 00:04

What a brilliant evening. Met loads of people, and the speakers were fantastic. Feel more optimistic than I have done in ages. Kudos to the people who made this happen, and the Taliesin and Swansea uni for hosting it. The so called protest...barely a peep really. I walked past and just heard some bleating over a muffled megaphone...something about toilet attendants?! Lots of very young faces, mostly young women, looking very cold and wet, with no idea that a bunch of worldly wise, hardened, clever fantastic women were sitting nearby trying to fix the mess...FOR THEM. They'll realise one day, when the world bites them in a way that feminism in the true sense of the word will start to make real sense.

wantmorenow · 08/03/2023 23:24

One audience member asked the panel what those of us not in academia could do. Apparently there is a video of Kathleen Stock where she lists what she believes we can do to support and raise awareness of the issues, also the panel said that not abandoning political parties (labour) as we need a voice from within. Made sense, I see a lot of comments from people on MN saying they feel politically homeless but this was an appeal to stay engaged with the parties even if they don't share GC views as our voice needs to be heard and we can effect changes only if we are there and active. Made sense and was perhaps more optimistic then I have felt in past.

Timingiseverythingcoll · 08/03/2023 23:02

Following

Temporaryanonymity · 08/03/2023 22:55

I was hoping to get there but unfortunately I already had tickets for a show at the Grand Theatre. Mark Drakeford will be standing down shortly and I suspect there will be an opportunity to make this an issue in the race for a new Leader.

Tonia is great btw. Not all of us in the Labour Party think the same way, and are trying to influence from within.

wantmorenow · 08/03/2023 22:49

Just back from this event tonight in Swansea and wanted to say hi to any fellow MNetters who were there. what a fabulous evening, very moving and supportive.

wantmorenow · 28/02/2023 17:32

Just bought my ticket

pattihews · 28/02/2023 15:09

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 20/02/2023 22:14

Eluned Morgan needs to go! Perhaps then her eyes will be opened a bit.

All MSs have been invited and we haven't had any response as far as I'm aware. Local MPs were invited too but MPs are expected to be at Westminster on Wednesdays. All MSs and MPs in Wales were invited to attend Filia and only one came — Tonia Antoniazzi who chaired a discussion on women in sport. I invited my own MS and said I'd buy her a ticket, but she's a true trans believer and declined.

We've contacted hundreds of academics at Welsh universities and now we have the beginning of a list of trans-allied academics at Welsh institutions because a number of those we invited have sent us aggressive replies calling us hateful and threatening legal action if we contact them again. Most of them are in the Social Sciences and Education departments. Those departments are advising the Welsh government and formulating policy. It's all useful info.

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fiendishdragon · 28/02/2023 14:47

Looking forward to it.

pattihews · 28/02/2023 14:45

EnfysPreseli · 23/02/2023 09:50

I think you're really selling this event short OP. Swansea isn't a long way from everywhere, particularly when it's for an event that has the kind of panel you'd normally have to travel to London for. The Severn Bridge and Offa's Dyke is a bit of a psychological barrier, true, but in travel distance or time if someone living in the West Midlands or West of England would consider travelling to London for an event, there's no reason for them not to consider going to Swansea. If anyone needs to stay overnight, accommodation is probably cheaper too.

I'm coming from West Wales and have family I can stay with, but the travel time would be similar from Bristol. South West Wales is gorgeous too. The uni is just over the road from the beach. It's not just about breaking even, we need good numbers there to hear what the amazing women on the panel have to say. Great if people are buying solidarity tickets if they really can't come, but I hope they'll also think seriously about coming along for the sisterhood.

The issue is that it's on a Wednesday night during the school term, so for a lot of ordinary people with jobs and children a 2-3-hour trip to attend a short event like this is a big ask. Travelling 200 miles to attend a day-long or event is something else.

I can't count the number of emails we've had from people who would have loved to be there but can't do it because of logistics.

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pattihews · 28/02/2023 14:33

People are being encouraged to come early in order to enable security to have time to do bag searches etc, so come early and maybe hang out at the top of the spiral staircase?

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BlessedKali · 27/02/2023 23:29

Is there a way to have a mumsnet meet up drink in the foyer before hand?

BlessedKali · 27/02/2023 23:28

Bump bump

EnfysPreseli · 23/02/2023 09:50

I think you're really selling this event short OP. Swansea isn't a long way from everywhere, particularly when it's for an event that has the kind of panel you'd normally have to travel to London for. The Severn Bridge and Offa's Dyke is a bit of a psychological barrier, true, but in travel distance or time if someone living in the West Midlands or West of England would consider travelling to London for an event, there's no reason for them not to consider going to Swansea. If anyone needs to stay overnight, accommodation is probably cheaper too.

I'm coming from West Wales and have family I can stay with, but the travel time would be similar from Bristol. South West Wales is gorgeous too. The uni is just over the road from the beach. It's not just about breaking even, we need good numbers there to hear what the amazing women on the panel have to say. Great if people are buying solidarity tickets if they really can't come, but I hope they'll also think seriously about coming along for the sisterhood.

NotBasically · 21/02/2023 13:42

Just bought a ticket as pay it forward. Hope someone will attend for me.

fiendishdragon · 20/02/2023 22:30

Looking forward to it.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 20/02/2023 22:14

Eluned Morgan needs to go! Perhaps then her eyes will be opened a bit.

BlessedKali · 20/02/2023 22:10

Me too, here are the emails:
[email protected]
[email protected]

pattihews · 20/02/2023 20:45

I've just written a quick email of support to the venue, which is under siege from frothing TRAs at the moment. If anyone else who's bought a ticket would like to give the university and its arts centre a pat on the back for hosting this event and encourage them to stand firm, then send it here:
www.taliesinartscentre.co.uk/en/

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pattihews · 20/02/2023 18:38

Crikey, I've just seen some of the messages that have been sent to the university and the arts centre, declaring it obscene that an event that doesn't include 'every category' of women should be help on International Women's Day. Not clear who they're from, students or staff or people who wouldn't be able to find Swansea on a map.

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highame · 20/02/2023 13:02

Thanks OP, I was aware of differences but it was the capture that most concerned and you've pointed that out..

Mizzem · 20/02/2023 12:58

I've seen one of the petitions shared online. The wording of it defied logic. It's like a TRA bingo card.