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Kayla Lemieux caught dressing as a man when not teaching!

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MeanCanadianLady · 18/02/2023 05:59

I know on your part of the world you’re all still asleep but I couldn’t resist this story just got so much more interesting!!!

nypost.com/2023/02/17/kayla-lemieux-ditches-her-z-size-breasts-outside-the-classroom/

Kayla Lemieux caught dressing as a man when not teaching!
Kayla Lemieux caught dressing as a man when not teaching!
Kayla Lemieux caught dressing as a man when not teaching!
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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 18/02/2023 08:45

VikingVolva · 18/02/2023 06:50

She's wearing pretty much the spring "uniform" at our school gates

Didn't realise were were all men

No wonder "let clothes be clothes" struggles to catch on.

I mean I don't take my breasts off when I wear tracksuits. It's a him not a she.

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2023 08:38

'It is not transphobic to demand Lemieux lose some cup sizes before teaching impressionable children, according to the submission of transgender woman Julia Malott at a special hearing of the Halton District School Board on Wednesday'

There we are, the only issue is the size of the breasts, apparently.

LizzieSiddal · 18/02/2023 08:33

I expect The Guardian to highlight the fact this poor transwoman does not feel safe walking the streets as his real authentic self, and JKR and Janice Turner are to blame.

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2023 08:31

Believe it or not there is more than one cross dressing male in the same area of Canada who wears prosthetics like this, although the other one doesn't seem to do it in public. It looks absurd because it's supposed to, but these things are on sale because there is a demand.

I think if someone has a personality disorder coupled with a fetish it can be very very hard to comprehend or believe their motivation. I'd say especially for women, who seem to almost never develop paraphilias.

Paraphilias can certainly involve a desire to humiliate oneself and do ridiculous things to attract opprobrium, disgust and shock.

They also tend to escalate.

JellySaurus · 18/02/2023 08:31

I don't see why this changes anything. There is no rule AFAIK that trans-identified people have to be consistent in their presentation. Take P Bunce, for example. Surely Lemieux's response to any accusations of dishonesty would simply be counter-accusations of transphobia and discrimination because he is being expected to meet a stereotype?

What a bag of worms the Canadian government has created by legalising, entitling and protecting trollish behaviour.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 18/02/2023 08:28

FrancescaContini · 18/02/2023 08:23

@MeanCanadianLady Can you ask for your title to be “re-worded”? Agree with PPs that this man is not “dressed as a man” but rather that he’s suddenly lost his comedy 🤔 voluminous breasts.

Is that really necessary? The title actually neatly encapsulates the whole madness. We all know what the OP meant. If we get into a purity circle of all policing each other's language, that helps no one.

IncompleteSenten · 18/02/2023 08:27

Bloke forces children to indulge his fetish.

Well, colour me flabbergasted.

FrancescaContini · 18/02/2023 08:23

@MeanCanadianLady Can you ask for your title to be “re-worded”? Agree with PPs that this man is not “dressed as a man” but rather that he’s suddenly lost his comedy 🤔 voluminous breasts.

picklemewalnuts · 18/02/2023 08:23

"Also it’s irrelevant whether or not this man is a troll or a pervert. Same damage is being done."

Totally.

Dylan, I think, has fallen for Dylan's own story. I can imagine it being quite addictive in the same way plastic surgery is. He's fallen down a rabbit hole. I don't read him as malevolent, just with that (some) gay man's tendency to overlook the actual full personhood of women.

This chap, however, is a full on toxic bloke, just in a different mould to the ones we usually see dressed as women. I mean, the misogyny and narcissism are still there, but he's not confused about his identity imo.

PaterPower · 18/02/2023 08:17

I don’t know about the toxic masculinity / looking to make a point bit - has anyone any proof of that outside of a couple of unverified Twitter posts?

I’ve read other tweets which asserted that the whole “he’s trolling to make a point” spiel was a TRA attempt to disown him.

Really, who knows (other than him)? He chose to go sky diving in the wig and prosthetics, which can’t have been easy, and he’s been seen outside the school wearing them. Other people who declare themselves trans switch ‘presentation’ on occasion.

Signalbox · 18/02/2023 08:16

ShimmeringShirts · 18/02/2023 07:08

Why was this ever allowed in school? He’s not even hiding under the trans umbrella?

He’s not hiding but he’s completely covered by the trans umbrella. This would have been dealt with on day one if it wasn’t for trans.

Day one: “no sorry you can’t come into school looking like that go home and dress appropriately or you’ll be sacked”

The trans umbrella not only attracts predatory males, it then protects them and prevents them from being dealt with.

Also it’s irrelevant whether or not this man is a troll or a pervert. Same damage is being done.

FOJN · 18/02/2023 08:06

Wasn't there an attempt to discipline him for us "toxic masculinity"? I think I read that in a couple of news reports and more than one person thought the fake breasts were part of a plan to annoy the school board and get them to sack him so he could take them to court for discrimination.

This latest development shows us that men can have different motivations for mocking women and that school board's in Canada have made a rod for their own back.

I can't wait to see how extreme thing have to get before they realise their mistake.

Lamelie · 18/02/2023 08:03

He’s trolling. The school had called him out on toxic masculinity last year and now he dresses as a woman at work to highlight the ridiculousness of self id and gender fluidity.

TeamadIshbel · 18/02/2023 08:03

JustWaking · 18/02/2023 07:00

The impression I get is that it's the same motivation as men who flash. It's about using sexual aggression to deliberately shock. Flashers tend to target the young and the old, in order to increase shock and upset. And this person is choosing to do this in a school, to young adolescents. I don't think that's a coincidence.

It seems fairly obvious that the same standards of professional dress should be required of Transwomen as are required of women. I can't imagine a female teacher being supported in wearing Z size breast prosthetics or sexualised clothing. What are the school leadership thinking?? Why on earth does all ability to think and apply good judgement disappear as soon as it relates to anyone Trans.

Imagine a female teacher standing in front of a class of children wearing an ENORMOUS erect strap on penis.

TeamadIshbel · 18/02/2023 07:59

picklemewalnuts · 18/02/2023 07:23

We don't know yet, I imagine one day we'll find out his motivation.

I think he's being awkward, trolling people. The initial walk up and down was getting his courage up, working out what the reaction was going to be.

I think he's doing it to annoy the authorities, wind up whatever school grievance he has, and generally point the finger at woke culture.

I don't think it's a fetish.
It's still abusive to those children, and a disgusting parody of women.

This was my feeling on Dylan Mulveney and his Barbie Pouch, woodland giggles and Tampax adverts but I was wrong unfortunately.

SinnerBoy · 18/02/2023 07:58

hryllilegur

Why is it that this person chooses to wear the ridiculous fake breasts to work in a school but requires no breasts outside of it?

I can only imagine it's because he gets a thrill out of doing it in front of a captive audience of unhappy children. He doesn't wear his costume out of school, as it's tiring and he's not really deluded into thinking that he's an actual woman and probably gets shit if he does parade round like that.

TeamadIshbel · 18/02/2023 07:56

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Get what you meant, OP. Thanks for posting.

This man publicly dresses up in an overtly sexualised woman suit BUT only in front of children.

That sounds like something.....

hryllilegur · 18/02/2023 07:45

VikingVolva · 18/02/2023 06:50

She's wearing pretty much the spring "uniform" at our school gates

Didn't realise were were all men

No wonder "let clothes be clothes" struggles to catch on.

Are you deliberately missing the point?

You’re all women because you are biologically female. So whatever you wear at the school gate, you’ll always be women.

The let clothes be clothes concept is impossible in a genderist world because all the markers of ‘gender’ are stereotyped or outright offensive.

Why is it that this person chooses to wear the ridiculous fake breasts to work in a school but requires no breasts outside of it? Seems a curious choice.

picklemewalnuts · 18/02/2023 07:23

We don't know yet, I imagine one day we'll find out his motivation.

I think he's being awkward, trolling people. The initial walk up and down was getting his courage up, working out what the reaction was going to be.

I think he's doing it to annoy the authorities, wind up whatever school grievance he has, and generally point the finger at woke culture.

I don't think it's a fetish.
It's still abusive to those children, and a disgusting parody of women.

CrystalCoco · 18/02/2023 07:17

Fucking men, this world gets more and more depressing

MeanCanadianLady · 18/02/2023 07:08

MoltenLasagne · 18/02/2023 06:57

Well colour me shocked! The question is now, has he just been doing this as a massive perversion, or was he trying to force the school board into firing him?

I feel you are right.

‘“He put the whole outfit on and just walked up and down Guelph Line — no bags, just walking.’

This implies that whether sexual or otherwise he just enjoys getting reactions out of people. It’s really gross that he’s involving children though. It’s so creepy! He’s got to be a huge narcissist considering he didn’t stop or change what he was doing when the bomb threats started rolling in. What he has done to the kids and parents is indefensible. I don’t see how the school can rightfully continue to defend him now that this information is public.

However I know that canadian law has put the school in an impossible position too. They are essentially damned if they do and damned if they don’t. I think they are trying to avoid going to the human rights tribunal but I have a feeling they were doomed to be on that path no matter how things turned out.

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ShimmeringShirts · 18/02/2023 07:08

Why was this ever allowed in school? He’s not even hiding under the trans umbrella?

JustWaking · 18/02/2023 07:00

The impression I get is that it's the same motivation as men who flash. It's about using sexual aggression to deliberately shock. Flashers tend to target the young and the old, in order to increase shock and upset. And this person is choosing to do this in a school, to young adolescents. I don't think that's a coincidence.

It seems fairly obvious that the same standards of professional dress should be required of Transwomen as are required of women. I can't imagine a female teacher being supported in wearing Z size breast prosthetics or sexualised clothing. What are the school leadership thinking?? Why on earth does all ability to think and apply good judgement disappear as soon as it relates to anyone Trans.

MoltenLasagne · 18/02/2023 06:57

Well colour me shocked! The question is now, has he just been doing this as a massive perversion, or was he trying to force the school board into firing him?

MeanCanadianLady · 18/02/2023 06:55

Walrussy · 18/02/2023 06:53

Oh no, I wasn't having a go at you! Just pointing out the ridiculousness of the wording in the article.

Glad we cleared that up. Lol. I simply misunderstood. ☺️

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