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One third of pupils kept home on "rainbow day" at Canadian school

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Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 13:14

Yikes.

I guess there's more disquiet about this stuff in Canada than is reported.

lfpress.com/news/local-news/rainbow-day-why-did-one-third-of-kids-at-one-london-school-stay-home

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suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 21:04

AlisonDonut · 17/02/2023 21:02

Sex is binary pet.

Ah, I suggest you do some further reading and go beyond the entry level stuff, love.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 21:03

suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 21:02

Wow, this thread eh?! Soon you'll have banned black history month, deaf awareness week, LGBT history month, mental health awareness week, world AIDS Day, etc etc... So many good things to work towards eh?

Deflect!! Deflect!!

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AlisonDonut · 17/02/2023 21:02

suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 20:48

You must be out of touch with contemporary science if you think that the majority of present day academics and researchers consider sex to be binary.

Sex is binary pet.

suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 21:02

Wow, this thread eh?! Soon you'll have banned black history month, deaf awareness week, LGBT history month, mental health awareness week, world AIDS Day, etc etc... So many good things to work towards eh?

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:59

OneLongSmorgasbord · 17/02/2023 20:58

God, are people still pretending that sex isn't binary?
Let me guess, that Nature article is about to be deployed in 3...2...1...

Guaranteed.

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OneLongSmorgasbord · 17/02/2023 20:58

God, are people still pretending that sex isn't binary?
Let me guess, that Nature article is about to be deployed in 3...2...1...

Helleofabore · 17/02/2023 20:55

“You must be out of touch with contemporary science if you think that the majority of present day academics and researchers consider sex to be binary.”

It really is predictable and cyclical.

Please post this evidence here on this thread. Because well, no, I would think you are indulging in a wonderful over exaggeration and misinformation.

I am sure I am not the only one that am looking forward to it. It has never once been posted yet. And if it is ‘the majority’… well posting something will be very simple.

suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 20:51

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:50

@suggestionsplease1 🙈🙈

You must be new here.

Haha, not at all, what do you mean by that?

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:50

@suggestionsplease1 🙈🙈

You must be new here.

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suggestionsplease1 · 17/02/2023 20:48

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 18:48

*Rainbowshit
It's part of an ongoing conversation about discomfort with what is being taught to our children about sex, sexuality and gender ideology.

There are numerous examples of inappropriate content and parents not being told what is being taught to their children.

What's happening is harmful in lots of ways and is not resulting in inclusion but harming LGBT acceptance.

Welcome to the creeping extension of transphobia to phobia for other minority groups.

Does this in any way surprise you?*

It's the same thought processes and rationale. Tacit sanctioning of transphobia is emboldening those who harbour similar attitudes towards other groups and who are seeking to normalise their attitudes in society.

And thank you for demonstrating part of the problem.

Not wanting children to be taught scientific untruths such as you can choose your sex is not transphobia.

Not wanting your children to roll a dice and select an orifice and a body part to insert is not homophobia.

Objecting to rainbow dildo butt monkey is not bigotry.

By smearing reasonable concerns as such you just add to the problem.

You must be out of touch with contemporary science if you think that the majority of present day academics and researchers consider sex to be binary.

Aquamarine1029 · 17/02/2023 20:22

IWineAndDontDine · 17/02/2023 14:15

Because, believe it or not, there will be members of the LGBT community at these schools, and we would rather they not feel like they are abnormal

How does not having a "rainbow day" make them feel abnormal?

hangonsnoopy · 17/02/2023 20:21

We don't know what Canadian Muslims think.

We don't know if this is about gender identity, homosexuality, oversexualised ideas, politics or anything else.

Because people have been strongly discouraged from giving their opinions, so now we have no idea what people in general think or what they want.

It is a huge problem when schools and parents should be working in partnership but parents no longer trust schools.

CorvusPurpureus · 17/02/2023 20:19

Roseey · 17/02/2023 18:05

DS is bisexual and hates the LGBetc stuff at school. He feels it makes it a "thing", as though it's an abnormality.

He's just normal. He doesn't want to talk about his sexual preferences at school. He has no interest whatsoever in bloody rainbows.

Same here. Dd2 fancies girls. Not boys who call themselves girls.

She is attracted to other girls.

& whilst her lovely friendship group are very gung ho with the 'yeah so corvusdd2's a lesbian, Adam's gay, Parvinder's a bit bi but not sure, oh & Travis isn't a gay transboy anymore, he's a they & they are dating Victoria who is now a straight girl, despite the fact that everyone has known Victor since year 3'...

...the cracks are starting to show.

Dd2 hangs out a lot with a nice friend, 'Adam'.

So, say some of her year group, dd2 might like to consider that she's trans, because then she & lovely Adam would be a lovely gay couple, right?

Dd2: well, no. I don't fancy Adam because he's a boy & I like girls. Plus he doesn't fancy me because I'm a girl & he likes boys. Simple, no? Adam & I are both gay. So we are not attracted to each other.

Y10: but you are so cute together!

Dd2: my cat's cute. I am not dating my cat, or bloody Adam.

As far as dd2 is concerned, all things 'lgbtquia+' can take a jump off the pier.

She'd like a girlfriend someday, & she will be navigating that VERY much outwith of all things rainbow-y & Stonewall associated.

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 20:16

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 19:46

No, negative generalisations against entire populations was how you broke guidelines. It doesn't matter who or what population is referred to, that's the part that HQ will delete.

It’s not a generalisation it’s the proud belief of that group

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 20:15

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 19:40

So people like you need to stand up and say that things like rainbow dildo butt monkey and diaper fetishists are not suitable for children. And stop smearing parents that are horrified as transphobic or homophobic.

Otherwise that's what people are going to associate your community with.

YOU need to stamp it out before permanent damage is done.

Oh I agree entirely. Those people are nothing to do with me and the vast majority of homosexuals and bisexuals

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 19:54

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 19:42

We're doing our best with that, thank you.

See the death and rape threats at us for doing so, but we keep on saying it. And getting tossed out of Pride and harassed on MN, and carrying on anyway. The LGBAlliance is also doing its best.

Thanks
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nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 19:46

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 19:29

Yup deleted. MNHQ clearly puts certain groups above others

No, negative generalisations against entire populations was how you broke guidelines. It doesn't matter who or what population is referred to, that's the part that HQ will delete.

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 19:42

We're doing our best with that, thank you.

See the death and rape threats at us for doing so, but we keep on saying it. And getting tossed out of Pride and harassed on MN, and carrying on anyway. The LGBAlliance is also doing its best.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 19:40

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 19:31

I am really scared of this new world, where the beliefs of a minority are prioritised above the real lives of many. Us gays, lesbians and women are going to see our rights eroded as western governments cave to this pressure, for fear of upsetting the countries they are chained to and the growing groups of angry oeople.

So people like you need to stand up and say that things like rainbow dildo butt monkey and diaper fetishists are not suitable for children. And stop smearing parents that are horrified as transphobic or homophobic.

Otherwise that's what people are going to associate your community with.

YOU need to stamp it out before permanent damage is done.

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mach2 · 17/02/2023 19:40

These "special" days wind me up. My daughter's school started black history month. And she's been told she's a slave and her predecessors were at the back of the bus. No dear, yours are called queen amina and they led armies to battle and never saw a fecking bus. She was the kid in school and now she's the black kid in school. There's a better way of making minority kids comfortable in school than singling them out. Including lgb kids.

A friend's partner joined the police and had to take part in Race Awareness Training. It pretty much consisted of inducing the participants they were racist and had the opposite effect to what was (allegedly) intended. The one black cadet said "Fuck me - if I didn't know I was black before, I do now"

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 19:31

I am really scared of this new world, where the beliefs of a minority are prioritised above the real lives of many. Us gays, lesbians and women are going to see our rights eroded as western governments cave to this pressure, for fear of upsetting the countries they are chained to and the growing groups of angry oeople.

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 19:29

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 17:41

I think you'll find it's negative generalisations of homophobia against entire populations, and this one will likely be shortly deleted too as against guidelines.

Yup deleted. MNHQ clearly puts certain groups above others

ComfortablyDazed · 17/02/2023 19:22

Josette77 · 17/02/2023 19:04

I thimk people here are not seeing this through Canadian eyes. We celebrate all individual things here. We are a very unique country.

Well, apparently you don’t, if a third of pupils were kept off school.

‘Unique’ is binary, by the way. Something is either unique or it isn’t. It can’t be ‘very’ unique.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 19:21

Josette77 · 17/02/2023 19:04

I thimk people here are not seeing this through Canadian eyes. We celebrate all individual things here. We are a very unique country.

Well it seems like a third of the "new Canadians" at that school don't see it like you either.

How are you going to solve that?

It seems there's a trust issue between the school and the parents.

There are indications they have gone too far with things e.g. the image of two girls in hijab kissing.

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StephanieSuperpowers · 17/02/2023 19:07

Hmmm...does this mean that we are minsinterpreting Booby McTeacher and are not interpreting it Canadianilly enough to understand the special nuance around his in school fetsh gear?