Sam Smith - fisherthem

Hah!

On your first point I think he's a pillock (yes HE )
On your second point he only uses those words to get media attention
On your last point , I think you will find it's called satire !

Will it lead a horse to water ?

@workingitoutnow I am saying I don't hate him I just think it's funny that he feels he can't say the word 'man' because he's declared that he isn't a man. I'm all for things being gender neutral where it creates greater equality but I also recognize that everyone has a sex. Not sure what the problem is with that.

I'm much more bothered by the erasure of the word woman, which is happening in literature describing periods, menopause etc. 'people who bleed' has even been used I believe! Infact, what was that article about not using words such as woman, man, son, daughter, male, female etc.? It's much more worrying to erase language that has been used for hundreds of years and has a clear and relevant meaning - to women, for example - than to laugh at a word like 'fisherthem' which was made up 5 minutes ago and has no real meaning.

It messed with jy headvthe new terminology. Hope we are not going to have to specify our pronouns or all the pupils at school. Will be frightened to say anything in case I slip.up.

When I read fisherthem, it just reminds me of an old LP my Dad had, it was a Christian folk group from around the 70's called Fisherfolk, it was a long forgotten memory and thanks to SS it has come jolting back.

Oh and fwiw I don't like SS, (sorry). Sam's voice just sends a wave of depression over me.

Oh come on! We're not mocking Sam 'because he's non-binary and we all hate non-binary people', we're having a laugh because he's just a bog standard man who says funny things. It's not hatred or wanting to discriminate against a particular group. We just don't see him as being quite as special as he thinks he is

,,,,, can you not see what you're saying?? Surely ..... I mean, really, reread what you just wrote @Wellies54

What part of history working?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9645591/

Using or denying the use of language dehumanises at worst and this removes moral value for the individual / group. There's a good study on it above.

There seem to me to be different types of comments on this thread

• I don't like Sam Smith ( fair enough). Just say that
• I don't like the words Sam Smith chooses to use to feel more inclusive. ( why are you so bothered by the language?)
• I think the words are ridiculous and will mock those that use them

He's an attention seeking bell end, who's trying to force people into using non-existent words, when others exist

absolutely, when sam says ‘jump’ we don’t actually have to

and I probably would use ‘them’ but his themming has led to ‘gender neutral’ brit awards and ive no fucking interest changing perfectly fine words like Angler

I LOVE the "Fisherman's Thems". Perfect. I wonder if they come in "Prize Plum" flavour too?

Januaryisthelongestyear · Today 19:35

This meme made me Giggle so hard I nearly woke up DP who's having a nap on my bosom.

Menthol Flavour Lozenges, appropriate - he seems a bit menthol.

workingitoutnow · Today 19:18

I don’t read it as you mocking Sam Smith. I hear jeering at the use of a gender neutral pronoun that someone who wants to use one is using.

He's an attention seeking bell end, who's trying to force people into using non-existent words, when others exist, quite probably in an attempt to trip innocents up, so he can have a whine and make out he's oppressed. To get attention and sympathy from credulous dolts.

Oh come on! We're not mocking Sam 'because he's non-binary and we all hate non-binary people', we're having a laugh because he's just a bog standard man who says funny things. It's not hatred or wanting to discriminate against a particular group. We just don't see him as being quite as special as he thinks he is.

This meme made me Giggle so hard I nearly woke up DP who's having a nap on my bosom

I would like to be mean but it includes the letters that spell out "man". So I can't.
Oh dear.

or maybe you should look a gift horse in the mouth?

trojans or teeth? Im gonna have to google that now

Which part?

ancient greeks?

romans? Is it a ‘don’t look a gift horse in the mouth’ sort of thing?

And them / they didn’t make sense before. As chairwoman or chair person didn’t make sense 50 years ago. Times change

eererrrrrr look at history……

I don’t read it as you mocking Sam Smith. I hear jeering at the use of a gender neutral pronoun that someone who wants to use one is using.

I hear objections to gender neutral language.

Yes gendered words are terrible, idiot and imbecile fortunately have no implied gender what so ever though.

Gender neutral pronouns wouldn't have to lead anywhere if people just accepted sex is immutable and that they are either male or female and stopped worrying about made up gender nonsense.

He's not the one using the pronouns - he's dictating the pronouns everyone else should use about him. And sorry, but it just does not come naturally to use 'them' for someone who is clearly male. Even Sam stumbled over saying fisherthem and I've heard other non-binary people correcting themselves when they talk about being non- binary. It's constant mental gymnastics. This thread really is just a bit of fun at a bit of ridiculousness!

It's not a word.

If Sams wants, Sam could say Sam would like to be a person who caught fish.

There are enough words for those learning English to grasp without making new ones - you can't take 'man' out of each word and just put 'them' instead.

i am just wondering whether you realise where such hate of gender neutral pronouns may lead?

Hopefully, all this pronoun shit dying under a well-deserved hail of scorn.