They is not very bright… is they?

There was a non-binary person on Naked Attraction the other day (yes, yes, I know) and they were completely indistinguishable from a woman. Honestly, there was nothing non-binary about them with their kit off.

There's always the role of Prince in the annual panto 🤷‍♀️

But in real life our sex does affect how we interact with others. We're animals at the end of the day.

I would have though being cast as a villain in a superhero movie was quite an achievement for a petite, feminine looking young woman. An interesting role like that is more than most female actors can hope for.

also interesting they says that when they would probably disapprove of a ‘cis’ person playing a cool trans/NB person because they would consider thems to be stealing their role from a fellow them

Not disagreeing with you, very few roles actually need to go to any type of specific person if you think about it.

Of course they is right!

The Crown would no doubt have been even more successful if Eddie Izzard had been cast in the Diana role.

Netflix really missed a trick there.

Yes they is missing the point. When women (real ones) play women, no one has checked whether their specific gender identity ( of the 100 plus we are told we can pick from) matches that of the person they're portraying. It's matched on body type and hers is clearly female.

The utter lack of self awareness is gobsmacking. She is a very pretty blonde. She is skinny and has quite childlike features, so she looks very young. Her success in her chosen career is in no insignificant part due to her being a very pretty, very young looking blonde woman!

Would Principal Boy in a panto suffice?

How on earth she hopes to get male roles when she's so clearly a (pretty) woman is bizarre.

Private Eye has a special section dedicated to the self-absorbed witterings of luvvies about themselves and their craft. They really do have no self-awareness.

When Roger Moore died they did a special "Non Luvvie" headline with his quote: "you see I've been very lucky really, as I'm not very good at acting."

I highly recommend listening to the latest episode of Triggernometry with Rosie Kay. They discuss, more broadly, the elitism within the arts and drama schools.

In the case I've just mentioned, the only 'interesting' thing is that it - quite rightly - wasn't interesting!

It's extremely disingenuous. Apart from modelling, acting is the main profession where looks are of paramount importance. I remember a female acting acquaintance saying to me that she'd got used to auditioning for parts and being told she wasn't pretty enough (and this is someone who was more than averagely physically attractive). Casting directors want someone with a certain look: young, old, short, tall, dark, blonde etc - and very often the look they want, particularly in women, is "extremely attractive". To be blunt, if they want to cast a man, they want someone who looks like a man, not someone who looks like a woman (in Emma's case, because they is one).

They went on to say that they would take on any part in a movie, whether it was a female, male or non-binary role, as long as it felt right for them.

AKA I’m desperate for work and will do anything.

I do think some roles don’t need a certain sex and I remember the uproar of the little mermaid being a black woman and so ‘non-binary’ roles would save so much hassle and people being offended.

But if I want a female character I am going to get a female, if I want a male I’ll get a male actor.

Just because she identifies as non-binary doesn’t take away from the fact that she is female and someone wanting a male actor isn’t going to cast her.

There are examples - eg in the legal drama 'Goliath', there was a judge played by a TW, this was iirc not mentioned and irrelevant to the story - it was one of those cases where the sex of the actor really didn't matter.

Even more interesting to see those roles offered to disabled actors, black actors, actors for whom English isn’t a first language , actors with strong regional accents and all the other actors whose lived experience is statistically more prevalent in society than non binary actors and yet whose presence on stage, in films and tv is noticeable by its absence.

😂😂😂

god is this tedious over privileged pita still whanging on?

It would be interesting to see non-binary/ trans people in roles where their gender wasn’t the entire plot though.
I think they may have a point.
They could be policemen or judges or crooks or shop keepers without it having to be remarked upon in the script.. why not?

Emma Corrin has a particular type of delicate female attractiveness which is a huge factor in the excellent roles Corrin has been lucky enough to get cast in.
I agree with @TheCountessofFitzdotterel and also find Emma Corin’s claims annoying. It would be very superficial to offer Emma a male part unless it’s a very specific part.
That’s why I was never invited to play Diana - I don’t look the part . (not that I’m invited to anything at all)

And they can't complain if a male or female with no identity whatsoever does play someone who is non binary. Or trans.

The whole thing is idiotic. She wants to look a bit androgynous? Go for it. No one cares

Exactly, I saw Tamsin Greig playing Malvolio at the National and it worked

I saw that on NTlive or stage to screen, also Kathryn Hunter playing Timon of Athens - the latter really isn't a very 'gendered' role as far as I could see.

Actually, I'm struggling to think of any Shakespeare performance I've seen in ages where there wasn't some sort of 'gender swap' beyond what Shakespeare originally included anyway. It's almost become a cliche, the presenter on the stage to screen things always mentions it with that special twinkly 'ooh, aren't we groundbreaking' way which is quite funny.

Emma shouldn't be offered male roles because Emma is not male. On the same principle that only gay actors can play gay characters and only trans women can play trans women, Emma should only be offered non-binary roles because Emma is non-binary. It is surely very offensive to both men and women to suggest that a non-binary actor can play male or female characters.