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Non-binary Sam Brinton in court soon

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 19:56

news.yahoo.com/nonbinary-former-biden-official-sam-165656140.html

'Brinton faces up to 10 years in prison for the alleged theft of the bag'

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 23/02/2023 15:15

How did this thread stop being about what a weird and violating pervert Brinton is?

GailBlancheViola · 23/02/2023 15:10

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 14:57

And not everything is about you. I don't think i referenced you once anywhere. in fact, i'm not even aware of you up until now.

Not everything is about you either but you seem to be desperate for us all to toe your line with our words and delivery.

You think I come across as aggressive, I think you come across as patronising with an air of superiority here to tell us where we are all going wrong.

GailBlancheViola · 23/02/2023 15:08

Your reading is entirely your reading.

The irony of that statement when you've been tone and speech policing across the board of late.

Nothing I can do about that. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so aggressive?

Aggressive - that is entirely your reading.

It is abit of an unecessary and counter-productive side-line as far as I'm concerned. Skip my posts if they offend you, and I'll skip yours.

As far as I'm concerned it is unnecessary and counter-productive for you to continually police the tone and speech of posters on this Board.

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 14:57

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 14:56

Your reading is entirely your reading. Nothing I can do about that. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so aggressive? It is abit of an unecessary and counter-productive side-line as far as I'm concerned. Skip my posts if they offend you, and I'll skip yours.

And not everything is about you. I don't think i referenced you once anywhere. in fact, i'm not even aware of you up until now.

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 14:56

GailBlancheViola · 23/02/2023 14:30

I'm not averse to endless repeats, not if it has the desired impact and outcome ( I used to be a teacher). Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

Persistence is key.

As you do seem to be on a mission to tone police all over this board@NotHavingIt do you realise just how patronising and smug you come across when you post comments such as the one above?

You speak to us as if were are still wet behind the ears on this subject.

FYI I have always been persistent and consistent and I use simple, straightforward language so the message is not lost. I do not and will not couch my words in flowery, fluffy verbiage, I will not apologise for saying the word 'No', or anything else clearly and distinctly.

There is nothing I detest more than using 20 words to say something when half that figure would be more than adequate.

Your reading is entirely your reading. Nothing I can do about that. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so aggressive? It is abit of an unecessary and counter-productive side-line as far as I'm concerned. Skip my posts if they offend you, and I'll skip yours.

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 14:46

GailBlancheViola · 23/02/2023 14:30

I'm not averse to endless repeats, not if it has the desired impact and outcome ( I used to be a teacher). Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

Persistence is key.

As you do seem to be on a mission to tone police all over this board@NotHavingIt do you realise just how patronising and smug you come across when you post comments such as the one above?

You speak to us as if were are still wet behind the ears on this subject.

FYI I have always been persistent and consistent and I use simple, straightforward language so the message is not lost. I do not and will not couch my words in flowery, fluffy verbiage, I will not apologise for saying the word 'No', or anything else clearly and distinctly.

There is nothing I detest more than using 20 words to say something when half that figure would be more than adequate.

I thought I was just tired over the past two days. But since this morning I have been reading that thread 'Trans and losing my mind' again ... and I was having conversations in my head about if I was misinterpreting something about the thousands and thousands of posts from patient women over the past years that have been reasonable and objective. And where 'tone' was neutral or encouraging.

I thought it was just me missing something.

GailBlancheViola · 23/02/2023 14:30

I'm not averse to endless repeats, not if it has the desired impact and outcome ( I used to be a teacher). Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

Persistence is key.

As you do seem to be on a mission to tone police all over this board@NotHavingIt do you realise just how patronising and smug you come across when you post comments such as the one above?

You speak to us as if were are still wet behind the ears on this subject.

FYI I have always been persistent and consistent and I use simple, straightforward language so the message is not lost. I do not and will not couch my words in flowery, fluffy verbiage, I will not apologise for saying the word 'No', or anything else clearly and distinctly.

There is nothing I detest more than using 20 words to say something when half that figure would be more than adequate.

Happylittlechicken · 23/02/2023 14:17

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 13:55

And .... you know that I have this thing about emotional manipulation attempts! Grin

You and me both lol

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 13:55

And .... you know that I have this thing about emotional manipulation attempts! Grin

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 13:52
Grin
Datun · 23/02/2023 13:45

That said, I did not mean to sound so exhausted that you needed to assure me.

Oh good. Cos I wanted to blurt out, for fuck's sake please don't stop, but you know... I was worried it might sound a tad selfish 🤣

❤️

ArabellaScott · 23/02/2023 13:41

picklemewalnuts · 23/02/2023 13:28

I've had a shirty stroppy morning. Generally I prefer a patient, deliberate approach but I've noticed I occasionally snap and fart snipe in sheer irritation.

Grin
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ArabellaScott · 23/02/2023 13:41

Chersfrozenface · 23/02/2023 11:20

Brazen. Or stupid. Or convinced he was untouchable due to his specialness.

Or a combination.

Or of course, an exhibitionist, who takes pleasure in risk taking.

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picklemewalnuts · 23/02/2023 13:28

I've had a shirty stroppy morning. Generally I prefer a patient, deliberate approach but I've noticed I occasionally snap and fart snipe in sheer irritation.

SinnerBoy · 23/02/2023 13:17

NotHavingIt · Today 11:29

Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

I must say that you're better than me, as I resort frequently to sarcasm and mockery of the people making absurd, unsubstantiable claims.

Happylittlechicken · 23/02/2023 13:02

Did we ever find out the third sex, or did the poster do a bunk?

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 12:47

Thank you Datun. You are one of those amazing women posting on here that I am constantly reading along and nodding. That said, I did not mean to sound so exhausted that you needed to assure me. I was just pointing out just how bloody long we have all been taking turns explaining patiently with Suggestions.

It feels like we could all just go back look our previous posts up and simply repost them.

Datun · 23/02/2023 11:48

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 11:37

Yes. It is a position I used to have until about three weeks ago. This month, I am exhausted and so too I notice are many others. The years take their toll unfortunately.

It is very repetitive. And often it is the same posters or different posters but the exact same tactics.

It is exhausting Helle. Your painstaking unpicking and analysis of these misogynistic posts must take its toll.

I, for one, am incredibly grateful for your patience, and I know that as women realise what's going on, and join forces with us, more women come along curious to find out more about it.

Women who might be quite shocked at a man of Brinton's status being lauded for cross dressing, might google him and end up here. The start of a journey, which you always make more informative and illuminating.

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 11:37

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 11:29

I'm not averse to endless repeats, not if it has the desired impact and outcome ( I used to be a teacher). Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

Persistence is key.

Yes. It is a position I used to have until about three weeks ago. This month, I am exhausted and so too I notice are many others. The years take their toll unfortunately.

It is very repetitive. And often it is the same posters or different posters but the exact same tactics.

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 11:33

Anactor · 23/02/2023 11:19

“'Queer Theory' arises from post modernistic ideas that there is no truth and no reality other than that which one defines for oneself.”

Is there any survey of the class background of the main queer theorists? Because being able to define reality for oneself sounds very much like a luxury belief. You need social status to be able to enforce your reality on others, plus the financial reserves to avoid having to deal with pesky realities like rent.

Then there’s the assumption that your world is a peaceful one. From personal experience, there’s nothing like a bomb going off outside your window to make you realise there is a reality that’s external to your thoughts and desires.

You’d think a nuclear engineer ought to be able to tell fantasy from reality, but hey ho.

Definitely! Queer theory is a luxury pursuit largely confined and legible only to those on American University campuses. It has no interest or formula for true social change or justice, only in personal/individualistic creation.

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 11:29

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 11:14

NotHavingIt

Thank you for your patient posts. Sadly, you are simply repeating the steps that many of us have done now for years with this poster.

However, in saying that, each time one of us explains like this the readers of these threads get another great explanation.

And hey, maybe, just maybe you will have found the right combination of words that will convince suggestions.

I'm not averse to endless repeats, not if it has the desired impact and outcome ( I used to be a teacher). Being reasonable and objective, as much as possible, in tone is important. Sometimes it is not the just the message but the way that it is delivered which can make the difference.

Persistence is key.

Chersfrozenface · 23/02/2023 11:29

If Brinton is convicted and sentenced to prison, which jail will he demand to be put in, and what will the authorities response be?

heathspeedwell · 23/02/2023 11:26

Psychologists have known for decades that paraphilias cluster.

It's also been established that there is very often a pattern of escalation around men who are aroused by non-consensual behaviour.

His desire to dominate women is extremely troubling and I an glad that he has been caught now. Hopefully he will get an appropriate sentence and appropriate psychological support that will put a stop to any further escalation.

His victims must be feeling incredibly violated, which is arguably exactly what he wanted and why he was so keen to flaunt the fact he stole their outfits.

NotHavingIt · 23/02/2023 11:21

Datun · 23/02/2023 10:24

Yes, I agree that's all part of it. He wears his creepiness like a celebration and a challenge.

Look how creepy I am, and you can't stop me, I'm lauded for it.

Men's distain of women really is becoming so overt they are getting backslaps all around for demonstrating it.

That disdain is increasingly evident as we see Eddie Izzard being interviewed on American TV and being addressed as 'she' throughout - to excited applause from the audience; when we see the pre-eminence of drag on our screens and on our high streets; with men referring to the queens as 'she' even when off the stage.

It seriously grates and grinds the gears. That this appropriation is now applauded by those on the so called 'liberal left' makes it all the worse, as well as all the more prevalent.

The full on appropriation of which other grouping would the 'left' applaud? None!

The push back against women and women's rights is coming from all directions.

Chersfrozenface · 23/02/2023 11:20

GarethSouthgatesWaistcoat · 23/02/2023 11:16

He also wore a very recognisable rainbow design t-shirt (striking white t-shirt with large rainbow + atom graphic). Then stole a woman's suitcase at the end of the flight (Las Vegas) wearing the same, recognisable t-shirt. He even made a social media post about the t-shirt prior to boarding his flight at Washington DC airport.

He wasn't interested in disguising himself in order to commit the theft (hoodie thrown on top, or change of t-shirt on the flight). All captured on security camera at Las Vegas airport.

Brazen.

Brazen. Or stupid. Or convinced he was untouchable due to his specialness.

Or a combination.

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