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Non-binary Sam Brinton in court soon

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 19:56

news.yahoo.com/nonbinary-former-biden-official-sam-165656140.html

'Brinton faces up to 10 years in prison for the alleged theft of the bag'

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scratchedbymycat · 15/02/2023 23:57

Notanotherone5 · 15/02/2023 22:54

Would you post a thread titled Bisexual John Smith in court soon? If not, why is this thread acceptable?

I have no idea if there's a section of MN where sexual orientation is the topic at hand (there must be, but I've never looked for it). It probably wouldn't be totally odd to see a post with a title like that over there. Context is everything.

scratchedbymycat · 15/02/2023 23:53

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 20:52

what does their non binary status have to do with anything?

What a totally weird post. This is the 'sex and gender discussions' section of MN. What do you think gets discussed here?

howmanybicycles · 15/02/2023 22:57

Notanotherone5 · 15/02/2023 22:54

Would you post a thread titled Bisexual John Smith in court soon? If not, why is this thread acceptable?

To be fair, the article felt the need to mention one aspect of his identity and that's not unusual nowadays given odd privileging of the reporting of gender identity for those people who actually have them. No one would bother to report that I was agender if I nicked something. The issue is not the OPs

Notanotherone5 · 15/02/2023 22:54

Would you post a thread titled Bisexual John Smith in court soon? If not, why is this thread acceptable?

TheDogthatDug · 15/02/2023 22:47

I don't think that he will do any any jail time. Remember he has got that special teflon coating.

Happylittlechicken · 15/02/2023 22:36

But @ElonsMusky Sam identifies as non binary. We were respecting his identity. If we’d called him a man, that would have been misgendering.

HermioneWeasley · 15/02/2023 22:23

@ElonsMusky if the thrill is in the stealing, why is it only women’s clothes/suitcases he’s taken? Why not any men’s? Why hasn’t he been caught stealing groceries? Why are you so desperate to find an explanation other than the obvious?

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 22:22

Perhaps because Sam Brinton made a lot of noise about his identity and how proud he was of it? I honestly would have thought he'd want to be described like that, otherwise why all the faff?

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howmanybicycles · 15/02/2023 22:19

I'm never sure why this particular aspect (non binary) of his/their identity needs mentioning. The theft was still a horrible crime. Do they mention other parts of his/ their identity? If not, why not?

JellySaurus · 15/02/2023 22:05

Ignoring the derailer, the simplest way for the judicial system to cope with where to confine an enbie within a binary prison system, is to confine them in the prison for others of their sex. The alternative - which I expect will happen - is to avoid the issue entirely by suspending the sentence.

lechiffre55 · 15/02/2023 22:04

The guy was in a very important position on a good wage. If he wanted to buy the clothes from a shop he could afford it easily. But he wanted to take the clothes and luggage belonging to a woman. He's done it more than once.
It's a fetish. Like the other fetishes he's put on display, only this one is illegal and non consentual.
He's a thief of women's underwear. It is not unreasonable to suspect he gets sexual gratification from it.
We'll know more after the trial. The jury are the finders of fact.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:56

Oh, dear, look the Daily Mail are also calling him non-binary. Best off and scold them, too, ElonsMusky.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11755563/Sam-Brinton-Bidens-non-binary-ex-nuclear-waste-guru-released-without-bail-theft-charges.html

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:55

ANYWAY. I do look forward to hearing how the case pans out.

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:54

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 21:34

oh sorry. I should be more feminine and docile, like a good girl.

No, no. You keep doing you. It's all really helpful.

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EsmaCannonball · 15/02/2023 21:52

There's nothing gender diverse about creepy men stealing women's clothes. It's rather typical male-pattern sexually-motivated criminal behaviour. He's a Benny Hill character, not the Che Guevara of diversity. Maybe his non-binary-ness made him too ladylike to clamber over a garden fence in the middle of the night so he went for the more brazen airport carousel option? Who knows?

ClaphamSouth · 15/02/2023 21:47

This seems a good place to draw attention to IPSO's consultation on their guidelines for reporting on sex and gender identity. The deadline for filling it in is 10th March.

IPSO - Consultation on the reporting of sex and gender identity www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4739118-ipso-consultation-on-the-reporting-of-sex-and-gender-identity

CandyLeBonBon · 15/02/2023 21:36

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 20:52

what does their non binary status have to do with anything?

The linked article quotes Sam's non binary status, which he's been very vocal about. Sam has been very clear that his non binary personality is an important part of his identity.

Oh and men stealing women's clothing is a well known indicator of what is socially considered deviant behaviour. Women stealing is usually rooted in different causes.

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 21:34

twitterexile · 15/02/2023 21:32

What a very...male...post that is. Yeuch.

oh sorry. I should be more feminine and docile, like a good girl.

twitterexile · 15/02/2023 21:32

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 21:28

IDK. Why did Wynona Ryder steal clothes? to rub her bean in them?

Did you know some people steal for a thrill?

What a very...male...post that is. Yeuch.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:29

Indeed.

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:28

I'm pretty sure he does a lot of kink. Would 'kinkster' be better than non binary? He seems very proud of all this stuff.

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ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 21:28

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:26

Why would he steal clothes? He was on a good salary, I would imagine.

IDK. Why did Wynona Ryder steal clothes? to rub her bean in them?

Did you know some people steal for a thrill?

ElonsMusky · 15/02/2023 21:27

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:25

His sexuality is relevant here. As pointed out.

except that it's not. You're forcing relevancy based on bigoted speculation.

Coyoacan · 15/02/2023 21:26

Isn't he proudly sadistic? Maybe that would do as a descriptor

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:26

Why would he steal clothes? He was on a good salary, I would imagine.

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