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STURGEON IS QUITTING

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Clymene · 15/02/2023 09:59

Just seen on BBC headlines

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ResisterRex · 15/02/2023 13:31

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1625827316067717120?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

"Nicola Sturgeon isn’t just the most impressive female politician in a generation - she’s the most formidable politician we’ve got.

A class act who enjoyed popular support which most leaders who’ve served that long could only dream of.

History will be kind to her."

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1625828506889293824?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

"Nicola Sturgeon was also on the receiving end of an unrelenting misogynistic campaign - including by those who allied with the Tories against her defence of LGBTQ rights.

Irrespective of differing views on Scottish independence, she’ll go down as a hero to LGBTQ people."

Whatever you reckon, mate.

hongkongmum · 15/02/2023 13:31

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

highame · 15/02/2023 13:30

I'm wondering if the Greens will get their marching orders. I'm not sure whether they can be ditched but I wonder if a new FM will want rid. Not much use having a coalition if your partners have helped with the downfall of your leader

ResisterRex · 15/02/2023 13:29

potniatheron · 15/02/2023 13:24

Little OJ has added the ponderous weight of his opinion...

First he tweeted that trans activists had toppled one of the most successful female leaders of all time.

then he deleted that

and wrote a panegyric of NS, finishing with the words "History will be kind to her".

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

Deleted. But not forgotten:

twitter.com/forthebeats1/status/1625823023130353666?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

WinterTrees · 15/02/2023 13:27

Adding 'tinpot Nostradamus' to my list of favourite OJ names.

WickedStepmomNOT · 15/02/2023 13:26

One fake TG rapist too many - unworkable policies and trying to control everything. Good riddance!!

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 13:25

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

He did History at uni, I think. I guess that makes sense. But for someone apparently obsessed with it, he certainly does seem to lack a grasp of the big picture.

SammyScrounge · 15/02/2023 13:25

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 15/02/2023 11:30

This. Was she somewhat alone in her views or was it representative of the broader party?

Well, msps stood alongside trans protesters waving placards about decapitating terfs. I'd say that was evidence of trans zealotry. To
threaten the bulk of female voters is a very unpolitician-like thing to do.
The problem now facing the SNP is that they are a Parliament of amateurs, talentless.and thoughtless. They wouldn't even agree to ban sex offenders from gaining a GRA and the right to enter women's spaces. They really are unhinged on this with a few honourable exceptions.

potniatheron · 15/02/2023 13:24

Little OJ has added the ponderous weight of his opinion...

First he tweeted that trans activists had toppled one of the most successful female leaders of all time.

then he deleted that

and wrote a panegyric of NS, finishing with the words "History will be kind to her".

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

BellaAmorosa · 15/02/2023 13:23

OvaHere · 15/02/2023 12:48

I think this is true to an extent. What I think has happened is that her fall in popularity and support due to genderism made her vulnerable. Once a politician is shown to be weak out come the knives in retaliation for all kinds of things and the media grasp the opportunity to bring to the fore things they've been sitting on waiting for such an occasion.

This is how I see it, too. The effect of caping for rapists and her inability to sex an obvious man was only significant in that it made her look ridiculous, which is much harder for a politician to ride out.

TimandGinger · 15/02/2023 13:23

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 13:17

She did give the appearance of being more in control, her daily speeches were reassuring to many.

Unfortunately the policy decisions were just as bad as those of WM - our death rates and policy mis-steps were just as bad.

I don't really wholly blame any politicians for fucking that up - it was a black swan event and must have been very very hard to manage.

Ferries, roads, education, democratic processes, political transparency, and health, however ...

No she terrified people to make herself feel important. I live in an area with a lot of elderly people, and they haven't got their lives back since Covid and probably never will. One got on a train last week, and said she was petrified. It's genuinely sad to see. I have told them that my parents never stopped living their lives, including seeing their beloved grandchildren, and are totally fine, but they don't listen.
During the shutdown I told them to stop watching her drivel and they'd feel a lot better, but no they had to listen to the 'First Minister's speech' every day.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 15/02/2023 13:22

Yes, I respected her during that part of the pandemic when we still acknowledged that COVID is dangerous and were treating it accordingly.

twinklystar23 · 15/02/2023 13:22

Recalling the passing of the act, and the wonderful merkin flashing episode, it cut to sturgeon, she looked very worried.

Hope the batshittery of the gender reform will be front and centre. Interesting to watch how this plays out.

FrostyFifi · 15/02/2023 13:20

She's not our PM but she was great during the pandemic.

She was unfortunately ours during the pandemic and it was what opened my eyes to the absolute incompetence of the woman. No understanding of how businesses function, no care for economic realities.
Good riddance.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 13:19

It's tricky because in some ways a politician needs to be a performer and present a capable, decisive front to the world. So deriding a politician for being 'fake' maybe is a bit unfair.

I guess one has to judge on deeds as well as words.

Plus, I just hate lies, and Sturgeon is a liar.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/02/2023 13:18

For those praising her achievements...

STURGEON IS QUITTING
ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 13:17

KohlaParasaurus · 15/02/2023 13:02

I also thought she performed very well during the pandemic, and also at the previous general election where it was easy to get carried away by the fact that she talked the sort of reasonable centre-left talk that some of us in England would have liked to have heard from Labour and forget that she was a one trick pony.

I'm disappointed. I wanted to like her. I wanted her to be a solid working class Scottish woman like the women I grew up with. I wanted her to be honest.

She did give the appearance of being more in control, her daily speeches were reassuring to many.

Unfortunately the policy decisions were just as bad as those of WM - our death rates and policy mis-steps were just as bad.

I don't really wholly blame any politicians for fucking that up - it was a black swan event and must have been very very hard to manage.

Ferries, roads, education, democratic processes, political transparency, and health, however ...

Tiddlywinkly · 15/02/2023 13:16

Ah Autocorrect - 'day' not listen

Tiddlywinkly · 15/02/2023 13:15

I'm so happy. That news has made my listen. Pay attention Keir.

hryllilegur · 15/02/2023 13:12

Floisme · 15/02/2023 13:10

Some bizarre and depressing comments on that Twitter thread. A journalist asks a politician an awkward question and is rebuked for being 'unclassy' and lacking respect. That profession is in deep trouble.

He just wasn’t deferential enough. How dare he seek to hold a politician to account. He should have respectfully mourned the passing of St Nicola, the first feminist like all ‘right thinking’ individuals.

ResisterRex · 15/02/2023 13:12

So there is an investigation. Just that she's not been interviewed

lechiffre55 · 15/02/2023 13:10

spuddel · 15/02/2023 13:06

Good riddance to bad rubbish! She has trashed my beautiful country. Not that I am optimistic for her replacement. It will be like losing Jacinda and getting Hipkins no doubt.

Im not Scottish, and while I hope the Scots will choose to stay part of the UK, if you gals and guys do choose to leave I wish you all the best of luck as an independent country.
I do hope you get a better leader than Sturgeon though. I think she was dreadful for the people of Scotland. I'm glad she's gone. Scotland deserves better than her.

Floisme · 15/02/2023 13:10

Some bizarre and depressing comments on that Twitter thread. A journalist asks a politician an awkward question and is rebuked for being 'unclassy' and lacking respect. That profession is in deep trouble.

Emmamoo89 · 15/02/2023 13:09

Wooooo!

TimandGinger · 15/02/2023 13:09

I was so glad during Covid that we weren't independent. You could see she was itching to keep everything shut including schools, but the pressure from England being open was too much. Even then she insisted on masks on under 12s just to be different.