STURGEON IS QUITTING

a murder, any murder, is terrible. It doesn't change the fact the victim was a biological male and their parents should have gotten them proper support, instead of going along with it, possibly changing schools, and thus protected them from the bullying they experienced or the gender pushers.

Back to NS, I doubt any replacement will garner the same support for independence that NS managed to do, and that's good. They also need to either backtrack on gender, or go full throttle, and neither will be a popular decision.

So be better than them. When you make hateful comments the hatful people don’t hear it. The trans kids do and your kids so and it creates more and more fear and hatred.

Give some examples of hateful comments here please.

The 'hate' is coming from those with placards about 'behead women who don't do what we tell them' and sexual violence threats, isn't it?

Are you really saying that if women stop pointing out and fighting against serious sex offender men raping women in prison, and women being excluded, and women just naicely accept handing over their equality and rights, that teenagers will be safe from knife crime?

Really?

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/snp-under-pressure-return-missing-28612097

Nicola Sturgeon's party raised the cash from supporters between 2017 and 2019 to spend on a new campaign for separation. SNP bosses said they would “ring-fence” the spending but the sum was then allegedly spent elsewhere, sparking several allegations of fraud. Some party insiders claim the money has already been spent on legal fees and refurbishing the party’s Edinburgh headquarters.

It's controversial because GC feminists are not fuelling the hatred. They are empathetic to children who feel confused, and want them to have appropriate spaces in which to explore those thoughts that don't mean making irreversible decisions. Allowing them to be gender non-confiorming, allowing them to explore sexual orientation, supporting neurodiversity to help children feel that they fit in - that IS being kind to trans kids and their families. Pretending they can change sex isn't helpful.

If you see a hateful comment feel free to report it. I assume you have gone on to Terfisaslur and reported every single one of the comments on there too or don't you might people reading those. Have you complained to the BBC about their report of yet another family annihilator appearing to suggest that the cause was the woman filing for divorce? I assume you raised the issue of the decapitate Terf signs with the SNP?

If #BeKind is going to work then it has to be applied equally by both sides. Otherwise it becomes "women budge up and shut up".

I am all for getting it right HKM but not at the expense of women.

Your ‘be kind’ stuff won’t wash if it means women are overlooked.

I work in the legal system and agree with you 100% on the threat of male violence towards women. But you can be concerned about that and also kind to trans kids and their families.

Trust me, if you voice any concern about that, you will invite large amounts of hatred and abuse to rain down on you. Look at JK Rowling. She has voiced her concern intelligently and compassionately, and never spoken hatefully of anyone, and she gets constant rape and death threats and is called a fascist nazi murdering scum (and so on) on a daily basis.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/30/snp-accused-spending-600000-propaganda-campaign/

SNP ministers have been criticised for spending more than £600,000 on a “propaganda” campaign which experts said was designed to fuel their push for independence rather than help vulnerable Scots.

There is no such thing as a transgender child.

There are only naturally gender non conforming children and children who are distressed by puberty and confused about gender.
Sometimes these two overlap.

Such is the problem when you're trying to communicate with/be communicated at by someone who has invented their own reality, and frames anyone pointing out actual reality, facts, history, as evil and doing it purely to be nasty to him.

ZeldaFighter · Today 13:39

I disagree with her on this particular issue of gender recognition but generally I think she's been a great role model as a sensible, fair, admirable woman leader.

Who has presided over a marked decline in educational standards, a worsening health service, the worst level of drug use and deaths in the West, the billions wasted on a ferry, built by cronies.

And the misuse of £600,000 in donations, given to fund an independence drive.

Sorry, which of those are most admirable?

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scotland-ferries-scandal-nicola-sturgeon-challenged-on-corporate-fraud-and-political-corruption-allegations-around-ferry-contract-procurement-3861095

Scottish Tories leader Douglas Ross has accused Nicola Sturgeon of presiding over a process that looks like “corporate fraud” and “political corruption” in relation to the procurement process for two late and over-budget ferries.

It follows allegations made during a BBC Scotland documentary the contract award process for hulls 801 and 802 for the Clyde and Hebrides was rigged in favour of Ferguson Marine, then owned by Scottish Government economic adviser and Yes-supporting businessman Jim McColl.

Putting men into women's prisons isn't treating women with kindness or dignity.

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

Funny how “being kind” means women sacrificing their safety, privacy and dignity without debate or even being heard.

It is a difficult issue, but “getting it right” for trans people meant getting it very wrong for women, and there was no attempt to square that circle. The issue is divisive and heated because Sturgeon created an environment where women had to scream to be heard. She created the very division she expects others to heal - mainly by getting those pesky women to shut up and put up. Had she undertaken proper consultation, listened to women’s concerns and acted to safeguard women and children she’d possibly still be in her job.

Instead her government issued illegal guidance to schools, put violent men in prison with vulnerable women and tried to make it possible for 16 year olds to consent to life altering medical treatment without the support and guidance (or even knowledge) of their parents. She effectively tried to erase women as a sexual class. Where’s the dignity in that?

Tiptoeing around trying not to trigger hurty feelz is a contributor to the problem, not the pathway out of it.

I’ve had a ‘hatful’ of pointless tone policing already, ta!

I work in the legal system and agree with you 100% on the threat of male violence towards women. But you can be concerned about that and also kind to trans kids and their families. That doesn’t mean allowing rapists into prisons but it means can we not navigate this issue with some empathy, on both sides and stop fuelling the hatred? How is that a controversial thing to say?

So be better than them. When you make hateful comments the hatful people don’t hear it. The trans kids do and your kids so and it creates more and more fear and hatred.

He sounds painful. Women’s rights winning.

Great for us. I can see some will be bewildered and upset after telling us no one cared. Tough, they do.

Women are murdered every day across the world. In the UK alone, it is estimated that 2 women are murdered each week (by former or current partners). Where is your kindness and compassion for them? Your kindness and compassion for all the women who have experienced less fatal male violence, experienced sexual assault or sexual harassment (almost all adult women), and who want and need, for their safety and sense of safety and dignity, single-sex spaces away from men when they are in a vulnerable position (in prisons, in changing rooms, etc.)?

How can you call it treating women with dignity to claim that what makes you a woman is not simply being female, but some vague thought in your head? That you, a person who was a female baby and then a girl and now an adult woman, are the same as a person who was a male baby and then a boy and at some point claimed on some basis to "identify as a woman"? What is it that you think these two people have in common that makes it appropriate to describe them both as "women"?

Well, I'm sad. I disagree with her on this particular issue of gender recognition but generally I think she's been a great role model as a sensible, fair, admirable woman leader. She's been strong for Scotland and stood up to Westminster. I hope her successor is also a strong Scotswoman

This is such wonderful news. I see it as not only a win for the brave, strong women in Scotland who dared to question her idiocy, but a win for uk women everywhere. Well done. Hopefully, this is a lesson learnt.

Happy to. As soon as TRAs stop demanding access to our spaces and threatening to rape and behead us on social media.

ArabellaScott · Today 12:59

That twitter link - all the morons saying the question lacked class, or shouldn't have been asked need to have a word with themselves. Why shouldn't he ask her, as she appears to be involved in the illegal diversion of £600,000 worth of money donated for one cause to others?

Wouldn't it be ironic if she ended up in the same prison as some of her beloved transw?

Just a thought but maybe if you truly want to take the heat out of the a debate you might think twice before accusing your opponents of homophobia and racism.

Just putting an extra screen shot into the internet ether:

I wonder if he suddenly remembered the previous generation’s most successful female politician?

Personally, I suspect history will indeed see Nicola Sturgeon as about as Feminist as Margaret Thatcher…