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STURGEON IS QUITTING

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Clymene · 15/02/2023 09:59

Just seen on BBC headlines

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DotAndCarryOne2 · 15/02/2023 15:34

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:32

Met Police are a disgrace

Will you be directing some of that ire at the Labour London Mayor, Sadie Khan, who has authority over the Met?

Who’s Sadie Khan ?

EdithStourton · 15/02/2023 15:33

most people on MN don’t care about trans people they just believe they are mentally I’ll and call themselves feminists for it . I never quite understood how such bigotry can be so promoted
Sorry, mate, but you're being clueless.
I do care about the wellbeing of trans people, but I'm also concerned about:
women's sports
women's prisons (does the name Isla Bryson ring any bells?)
women's safety (given that transwomen offend much like men do, and women have single-sex spaces like changing rooms to protect them from men)

It's not bigotry to want to protects women's rights.

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:32

Met Police are a disgrace

Will you be directing some of that ire at the Labour London Mayor, Sadie Khan, who has authority over the Met?

ILikeDungs · 15/02/2023 15:31

most people on MN don’t care about trans people they just believe they are mentally I’ll and call themselves feminists for it . I never quite understood how such bigotry can be so promoted

"Bigotry" again. So boring. It's always easier to fling insults than produce clear analysis.

Boiledbeetle · 15/02/2023 15:31

Just been browsing twitter

STURGEON IS QUITTING
Signalbox · 15/02/2023 15:31

I've not read the whole thread...

LOJ has declared that "history will be kind" to NS.

He's so obsessed with how people of the future will view us isn't he?

Is that what comes of being continually critical of what people were doing 10 / 20 / 30 / 100 years ago.

STURGEON IS QUITTING
NicolaSturGONE · 15/02/2023 15:31

I'm seeing very few sad messages that aren't from SNP MPs or MSPs. the overall mood is jubilation.

I can't see Kate standing for FM. She's on maternity leave, plus isn't she a christian? How would that work with the trans rights agenda? I don't think Humza is popular. Swinney has already tried and failed. Mairi Black is a possibility but could she do both Holyrood and Westminster? She'd just further the trans agenda which has been evidenced as a vote loser. So who then??

Kier Starmer will be doing absolute cartwheels as this has handed him the election (although I'm not too happy with Labour's stance on trans either).

AmuseBish · 15/02/2023 15:27

hongkongmum · 15/02/2023 13:52

I’d love to see a tiny % of the anger here towards NS for the decision with prisons towards the Tory party for the shambles they have created with the court system which means rapists aren’t prosecuted and the Met Police are a disgrace. That’s a far bigger threat to women than trans people are.

I'm very vocal about this both online, in my job, and with my friends and family.
If you're not aware of the anger about this you're either not looking or assuming it's other people being angry. And of course, what makes the headlines is kind of arbitrary.

And again, it's not "trans people" that I believe are a threat to women. It's male people. I wouldn't even know how to tell if someone is trans now, especially after Sturgeon indicates their gender is in question based on their actions.

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:27

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:19

Because police has confirmed it’s a line of enquires they are actively following ?

Yes I think the number of teenagers killed in stabbing this year is shocking too.

OMG12 · 15/02/2023 15:25

hongkongmum · 15/02/2023 13:31

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

And two women are murdered each week by their violent male partners. Men are violent to a much much greater level and frequency than women and this is one of the reasons why we want to keep them out of our spaces. Men being in women’s spaces is an inevitable consequence of trans ideology.

As for Brianna, the Police have said there is no evidence of this being a hate crime. Although it seems they have now been told to re investigate this possibility. But please don’t use the death of a child in your attempt at emotional blackmail- it’s sickening

MarshaBradyo · 15/02/2023 15:24

I thought posters were sounding quite happy on this thread tbh

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:24

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:19

Because police has confirmed it’s a line of enquires they are actively following ?

Reminder:

STURGEON IS QUITTING
SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 15:23

*Wiluli · Today 15:07

- -They like her in Russia. They call her Beluga. - -

Don’t be silly ! I actually based that sentence on facts .

You're humourless, aren't you? Beluga Sturgeon / caviar.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:23

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:18

Not at all , but will take time .

They’ve had years! All party leaders have a limited time at the top. I’m amazed that you claim to support a political party and want them to lead an independent Scotland yet also assume that party has no competent leaders waiting in the wings. Both things cannot be true at the same time - either the SNP are good enough to govern or they aren’t.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 15:22

Ah, I see. Well. Ginger beer all round, then!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/02/2023 15:22

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 15:20

Has the bat signal gone out?

I think this thread is trending

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 15:20

Has the bat signal gone out?

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:19

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:11

Why raise Brianna’s death but not Andy Wood‘s? Another 16 year old murdered the same day? Or the other teenagers stabbed to death this year, including Harley Barfield (16), Raymond James Quigley (18), Holly Newton (15), Ashley Wadsworth (19), and the young man who was attacked near Holyrood Palace only on Sunday and died as a result? Knife crime is a huge problem that needs to be addressed not deflected.

Because police has confirmed it’s a line of enquires they are actively following ?

Belindabobtail · 15/02/2023 15:19

Do you lot never long for a stress free afternoon, where your teeth aren't permanently lodged in someone elses throat?
I can't imagine the state of the MN collective blood pressure Grin
It's like a tabloid comments section these days. Perhaps less daily mail reading and more haiku might help...

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:18

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:16

You must have a very poor opinion of the SNP if you don’t think ANY of them are capable of being First Minister! Are you sure YOU aren’t a Tory? 😂

Not at all , but will take time .

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:16

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 14:57

Yes because finding someone else l be very easy !!

You must have a very poor opinion of the SNP if you don’t think ANY of them are capable of being First Minister! Are you sure YOU aren’t a Tory? 😂

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:11

hongkongmum · 15/02/2023 13:31

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

Why raise Brianna’s death but not Andy Wood‘s? Another 16 year old murdered the same day? Or the other teenagers stabbed to death this year, including Harley Barfield (16), Raymond James Quigley (18), Holly Newton (15), Ashley Wadsworth (19), and the young man who was attacked near Holyrood Palace only on Sunday and died as a result? Knife crime is a huge problem that needs to be addressed not deflected.

Ludo19 · 15/02/2023 15:10

I'm Scottish. I'm glad she's stepping down. She's a disgrace. Has super injunctions out against the press. She's was only ever intent on being a woman who gave Scotland independence. I'm always interested on these polls, no one I know has been asked no paper supports her or their readers or people in the wider public and I'm by no means speaking for everyone. Give junkies an extra £25 pw if they have a pet.

Shitshow

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 15:09

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BellaAmorosa · 15/02/2023 15:09

Bitofhelpoverhere · 15/02/2023 15:04

This article is very relevant to Wales to. JK talks about how Wales is a small country, the public/ third sector is very small, left wing, everyone knows everyone else and wants to be seen as progressive, and so is very easy to capture. This is exactly what has happened in Wales. Lack of debate and dissent leads to really bad decision making.

Yes, indeed. There are upsides to having a small population - greater sense of community, for one thing - but the vulnerability to getting swept away by ideas without properly interrogating them is a clear downside.