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STURGEON IS QUITTING

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Clymene · 15/02/2023 09:59

Just seen on BBC headlines

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Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 16:05

What is likely to happen now is a bit like what has happened to the Tories; the SNP will scrape by longer than they should with second rate leaders because the opposition is still too weak (and caught up in identity politics) to hold them to account.

We need the SNP to lose their concocted majority and spend a term in opposition. During that time the whole SNP needs a total refresh with new MSPs selected for their political acumen and integrity rather than loyalty to the party leaders. They need to rethink their approach and realise they need to earn independence through good management of Scotland, not by blaming Westminster. And they MUST get rid of that undemocratic promise never to question the party.

EsmaCannonball · 15/02/2023 16:01

Maybe she planned this whole shit-show so she and her husband can go to the same prison?

potniatheron · 15/02/2023 15:56

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 15:45

Nicola Sturgeon
Said our concerns 'weren't valid'
Oh, how times have changed.

Ha ha! I love this

CharlieParley · 15/02/2023 15:56

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 14:50

Why you are all so happy about this is beyond me. If youvthibk the tories will do a better job for women’s rights you are deluded !! Not to mention she is highly respected abroad and I I’ll be very hard to find someone who can do the same . I guess everyone here is either English or really doesn’t care we stay under English rule for another hundreds of years . They treat us so well 🙄🙄🙄

Why you are all so happy about this is beyond me.

I'm not happy, but I don't blame those who are. Mostly I feel relief that she can do no more damage soon, anger that she's created an almighty mess and now gets to leave it to others to fix and disappointment that she failed both the strategy of convincing the people that the SNP is competent in power by failing on education, health, drugs, poverty, ferries, infrastructure, etc etc and the entire independence movement.

If youvthibk the tories will do a better job for women’s rights you are deluded !!

Most of us don't but it cannot be denied that Conservative MSPs are the ones that have most consistently raised serious issues about women and children who are being harmed by self-id policies and gender identity ideology.

Not to mention she is highly respected abroad and I I’ll be very hard to find someone who can do the same .

That is changing as the gloves have come off. Did you read Craig Murray's post? The First Minister has been given an unnaturally easy ride by mainstream media (almost entirely unionist) for years, and yet in the past four weeks, as Murray points out, that has changed. We've had four weeks of relentless questions, and now there will be a reckoning of her actual performance. Her reputation will be in tatters after that and rightly so.

I guess everyone here is either English or really doesn’t care we stay under English rule for another hundreds of years . They treat us so well 🙄

Guess again, but please cease the xenophobic rhetoric and stick to talking about the UK Government rather than making disparaging remarks about an entire people.

Bitofhelpoverhere · 15/02/2023 15:56

TeiTetua · 15/02/2023 15:51

Before we dance and sing, let's hear who's going to take her place and whether they're actually likely to be an improvement. Good people are harder to find than bad ones.

This is true. But we are allowed a moment of hopeful joy, aren’t we?

And there is hope is so much of the media reporting linking NS pushing through the GRR to her resignation now.

FrostyFifi · 15/02/2023 15:53

It seems the only ones celebrating are ranger supporters in Glasgow

Those that know me, and my utter lack of interest in football, and revulsion of anything Old Firm, will be startled to hear that I'm now a Rangers supporter.

I suppose it'll make buying me gifts easier?

TeiTetua · 15/02/2023 15:51

Before we dance and sing, let's hear who's going to take her place and whether they're actually likely to be an improvement. Good people are harder to find than bad ones.

scratchedbymycat · 15/02/2023 15:49

SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 15:23

*Wiluli · Today 15:07

- -They like her in Russia. They call her Beluga. - -

Don’t be silly ! I actually based that sentence on facts .

You're humourless, aren't you? Beluga Sturgeon / caviar.

I hope @SuePine73 keeps on being silly because that made me properly larf.

Christmasisshit · 15/02/2023 15:47

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Well that's blatantly untrue. Anyone who's hung around here for any amount of time would know that posters have a great deal of knowledge and acquaintance with people who are trans identifying. Many are here out of concern for children's safeguarding, often their own child. I've been in these parts under different names for over 10 years and have a gender non-conforming child and a friend who is transsexual having had the op over twenty years ago. Don't you dare come here with your half truths and smears.

BaronMunchausen · 15/02/2023 15:47

@Wiluli I guess everyone here is either English or really doesn’t care we stay under English rule for another hundreds of years

Strange as it might seem, there are people here who aren't even British 😱

Some of us attach importance to the rights of women and girls internationally.

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:46

I am glad Nicola Sturgeon is gone, she had no ability or interest in listening to critics and it is impossible to write good law or govern well without doing so. Time and time again she has put ideology above sensible decision making. Children became simply tools to be manipulated to her own ends - be it named person, gender ideology, voting, independence etc. Even a Scottish government report admitted that the face coverings they were required to wear in the pandemic possibly increased infections but by making school children wear them people in the community would be more likely to follow suit so they should keep them mandatory in schools.

Some people cry ‘she gave us free university tuition’ but try and get into study law in Edinburgh and you will find English students can get places and you can’t.

Hellybelly84 · 15/02/2023 15:46

Excellent news 🥳

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 15:45

Belindabobtail · 15/02/2023 15:19

Do you lot never long for a stress free afternoon, where your teeth aren't permanently lodged in someone elses throat?
I can't imagine the state of the MN collective blood pressure Grin
It's like a tabloid comments section these days. Perhaps less daily mail reading and more haiku might help...

Nicola Sturgeon
Said our concerns 'weren't valid'
Oh, how times have changed.

tigger1001 · 15/02/2023 15:44

"It seems the only ones celebrating are ranger supporters in Glasgow , if you are like them you can join . I wouldn’t be very proud of it"

What has football got to do with it??

I'm on the east coast and don't support rangers. I don't base my political views on a football club. I am happy she is going. Although am also worried about who will replace her. I can't help think she went before she was pushed (or at least pushed publicly) and wonder what will be uncovered now.

Maybe scotland can now recover and be somewhere I am again proud to live.

Fluffymule · 15/02/2023 15:44

I’m enormously happy that she’s gone.

I do think there is more to it than her indefensible and unforgivable betrayal of women and children with the GRR issue - pending financial scandals and the other issues many posters have already mentioned.

However the one thing I’m grateful to Sturgeon for is that her dogmatic fealty to Gender Ideology coupled with her arrogance put the cold hard reality of what GI politics and TWAW means when imposed in actual real life.

With massive media headlines, unforgiving, unfiltered visual evidence, the emperors clothes were shown to be missing. And the public saw, and didn’t like it.

Other politicians know this now. Of course the battle isn’t over yet. But I do think Sturgeons downfall, now forever linked to her position on GRR and GI, will help.

scratchedbymycat · 15/02/2023 15:43

SuePine73 · 15/02/2023 14:58

@Wiluli

Not to mention she is highly respected abroad and I I’ll be very hard to find someone who can do the same .

They like her in Russia. They call her Beluga.

🤣🤣🤣

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 15/02/2023 15:41

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:40

Sadiq Khan has been outed as trans? On Mumsnet?

Wow. That’s a plot twist I didn’t see coming! congrats to London’s first ever Lady Mayoress, I guess…

Sadie Khan. Grin

EsmaCannonball · 15/02/2023 15:40

It's come to something when my absolute baseline for a politician is 'an ability to recognise and acknowledge objective material reality' and so many of them can't even elevate themselves to that low standard.

Anyway, nobody likes a collaborator. Bye, Nic!

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:40

DotAndCarryOne2 · 15/02/2023 15:34

Who’s Sadie Khan ?

Sadiq Khan has been outed as trans? On Mumsnet?

Wow. That’s a plot twist I didn’t see coming! congrats to London’s first ever Lady Mayoress, I guess…

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:37

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/02/2023 15:35

I can't imagine the state of the MN collective blood pressure Grin
It's like a tabloid comments section these days. Perhaps less daily mail reading and more haiku might help...

Well that's us told. Silly women talking politics, tut tut. Bad for the blood pressure, better get back to the small things our little lady brains can handle like changing nappies or sitting quietly in the corner looking pretty with our knitting.

Posh prams and Pom Bears? The mother-hate is palpable.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 15:36

Signalbox · 15/02/2023 15:31

I've not read the whole thread...

LOJ has declared that "history will be kind" to NS.

He's so obsessed with how people of the future will view us isn't he?

Is that what comes of being continually critical of what people were doing 10 / 20 / 30 / 100 years ago.

I wonder if LOJ thinks history will be kind to Maggie Thatcher? She was the formidable female politician of the previous generation that he’s invoking with this tweet.
Although unlike Sturgeon, Thatcher didn’t pretend to be a feminist…

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/02/2023 15:36

Boiledbeetle · 15/02/2023 15:31

Just been browsing twitter

I love this A LOT

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/02/2023 15:35

I can't imagine the state of the MN collective blood pressure Grin
It's like a tabloid comments section these days. Perhaps less daily mail reading and more haiku might help...

Well that's us told. Silly women talking politics, tut tut. Bad for the blood pressure, better get back to the small things our little lady brains can handle like changing nappies or sitting quietly in the corner looking pretty with our knitting.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/02/2023 15:35

MarshaBradyo · 15/02/2023 15:24

I thought posters were sounding quite happy on this thread tbh

I was thinking that! I must just be used to the cut and thrust of FWR.? Although the rest of MN is a fairly terrifying place to me!

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 15:35

DotAndCarryOne2 · 15/02/2023 15:34

Who’s Sadie Khan ?

Sadiq Khan, overkeen autocorrection