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Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 18:30

Just thought I should mention the honourable exceptions in the SNP who defied the whip -

Ash Regan, Stephanie Callaghan, Annabelle Ewing, Fergus Ewing, Jim Fairlie, Kenny Gibson, Ruth Maguire, John Mason and Michelle Thomson.

From Scottish Labour (who were also whipped), the honourable exceptions were - Claire Baker and Carol Mochan

Delphinium20 · 15/02/2023 18:30

It was a NYTimes notification as well - their second paragraph mentions the rapist and the gender ID as being a factor.

Well done, vipers. May I also note that despite doing the exact same as Sturgeon, we aren't seeing Biden or Trudeau capitulating, are we? Despite how she turned her back on women, it hurts to see a woman punished more than a man.

www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/15/world/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-resigns/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-resigns?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

BellaAmorosa · 15/02/2023 18:27

@ResisterRex
Thank you

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 15/02/2023 18:23

SammyScrounge · 15/02/2023 13:25

Well, msps stood alongside trans protesters waving placards about decapitating terfs. I'd say that was evidence of trans zealotry. To
threaten the bulk of female voters is a very unpolitician-like thing to do.
The problem now facing the SNP is that they are a Parliament of amateurs, talentless.and thoughtless. They wouldn't even agree to ban sex offenders from gaining a GRA and the right to enter women's spaces. They really are unhinged on this with a few honourable exceptions.

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Ah. So high likelihood. But then possibly equally high likelihood of being ousted next election?

ResisterRex · 15/02/2023 18:23

@BellaAmorosa maybe it was here though I thought I read it in The Times...will keep looking:

skwawkbox.org/2022/08/22/labour-party-bankrupt-within-2-years-on-current-financial-course/

TinpotNostradamus · 15/02/2023 18:17

potniatheron · 15/02/2023 13:24

Little OJ has added the ponderous weight of his opinion...

First he tweeted that trans activists had toppled one of the most successful female leaders of all time.

then he deleted that

and wrote a panegyric of NS, finishing with the words "History will be kind to her".

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

😄

senua · 15/02/2023 18:13

Silvers11 · 15/02/2023 17:31

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

What's the relevance of this question? Sturgeon was trying to change national law by the back door; her going affects all the UK.

SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 18:12

tigger1001 · Today 18:09

I am.

Really??! Why are you posting in a Swedish accent?

😃

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 15/02/2023 18:11

iI recognise many as regualr posters on scotsnet

tigger1001 · 15/02/2023 18:09

Silvers11 · 15/02/2023 17:31

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

I am.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 18:09

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 17:47

I work in the legal system and agree with you 100% on the threat of male violence towards women. But you can be concerned about that and also kind to trans kids and their families. That doesn’t mean allowing rapists into prisons but it means can we not navigate this issue with some empathy, on both sides and stop fuelling the hatred? How is that a controversial thing to say?

Women were told that their concerns 'weren't valid' and that 'rights aren't a pie'. This has been repeated ad nauseum along with the chilling scream of 'bigot!!!'. The mere suggestion that there needed to be a careful balancing of rights was met with memes of 'shut the fuck up terf'. Women were sent death threats for pointing out that letting all males into single sex female spaces was a recipe for disaster. Women consistently pointed out that the Tavistock and Sandyford clinics were doing worrying practices and pointed out that the 3000% rise in teenage girls identifying as boys should be investigated before they were unquestioningly directed towards medical transition - they were told to 'fuck off and die'.

'Bad as both sides' won't wash.

The re-writing of history won't wash.

Ah the glory days of Sturgeon, eh?

SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 18:05

Wiluli · Today 17:44

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish? Not many ! Probably don’t even live in Scotland or have any idea of what Scotland is truly like

I'm not, I'm a Geordie, but I was living in Aberdeen at the time of the Devo Ref. I abstained, even though I was eligible. I've probably spent 3 years there on projects, outside of actually living there.

BlackForestCake · 15/02/2023 18:04

@ArabellaScott Unicorns don't vote so that doesn't matter much

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 18:02

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 17:44

Not many ! Probably don’t even live in Scotland or have any idea of what Scotland is truly like

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Away and shite ye wee nyaff.

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 18:01

SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 17:26

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet

Labour are brassic. Keir is an idiot (or has some big Tory-party style donors lined up

He's managed to alienate some of the unions, who have stopped funding, or reduced it. He's a bungling nincompoop.

I read alienate some of the unicorns.

persister · 15/02/2023 17:52

Kate Forbes is Wee Free and anti-abortion, isn't she? So not exactly a defender of women's rights.

Topsyturvy78 · 15/02/2023 17:52

Exactly BoJo, partygatr then the absolute shambles coming out. Multiplr MPs resigned the cabinet falling apart. That health secretary what's his face I've forgot. Jacob Reece mog. They're just a few I can remember. And all that waffle. New Zealand and Australia also had female PM's and they're numbers were low. Maybe we might have been better with Theresa may.

guinnessguzzler · 15/02/2023 17:51

Just caught up. Honestly, you go on holiday for a few days! Still, not surprised, I knew she was done for a few weeks ago. She must be raging.

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 17:48

Silvers11 · 15/02/2023 17:31

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

Several I know of, including myself.

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 17:47

I work in the legal system and agree with you 100% on the threat of male violence towards women. But you can be concerned about that and also kind to trans kids and their families. That doesn’t mean allowing rapists into prisons but it means can we not navigate this issue with some empathy, on both sides and stop fuelling the hatred? How is that a controversial thing to say?

Women were told that their concerns 'weren't valid' and that 'rights aren't a pie'. This has been repeated ad nauseum along with the chilling scream of 'bigot!!!'. The mere suggestion that there needed to be a careful balancing of rights was met with memes of 'shut the fuck up terf'. Women were sent death threats for pointing out that letting all males into single sex female spaces was a recipe for disaster. Women consistently pointed out that the Tavistock and Sandyford clinics were doing worrying practices and pointed out that the 3000% rise in teenage girls identifying as boys should be investigated before they were unquestioningly directed towards medical transition - they were told to 'fuck off and die'.

'Bad as both sides' won't wash.

The re-writing of history won't wash.

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 17:44

Silvers11 · 15/02/2023 17:31

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

Not many ! Probably don’t even live in Scotland or have any idea of what Scotland is truly like

SinnerBoy · 15/02/2023 17:31

Shelefttheweb · Today 17:29

Why do you think Scottish Labour couldn’t pick up their vote? And why would people voting Tory by bad for democracy? Surely that would be democracy?

Scottish Labour can't pick the vote up in the National General Election. If Labour went bust and was unable to field candidates, it'd be a virtual one party state, which is very much undemocratic!

Silvers11 · 15/02/2023 17:31

Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

DrBlackbird · 15/02/2023 17:30

Scandal is born from the weaknesses and overriding of checks and balances in politics and power. Everything about Sturgeon's demise is rooted in the same stuff.

⬆️ completely agree with this sentiment.

Shelefttheweb · 15/02/2023 17:29

To be honest, as a natural Labour voter, I'm hoping it doesn't finish them off and they come to their bloody senses of the ridiculous trans stuff. It'd be disastrous for democracy if they went bust and left the Tories with an open field.

Why do you think Scottish Labour couldn’t pick up their vote? And why would people voting Tory by bad for democracy? Surely that would be democracy?