STURGEON IS QUITTING

Why is this not on the trending highlight given how it is top of the news and top of interest on here.

Maybe this was it. Sorry as I'm behind on the thread now!

That gets my (non-Scottish) vote!

And me.

Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP, alongside the lib dems and scottish labour oh and let's not forget Mad Maggie and the Scottish greens, have demonstrated in recent months nothing but contempt for the women in my country.

They had the chance in December to find a balance, and they chose not to do that.

They chose to put rapists and child molesters in female prisons, in changing rooms, in our hospital wards and in our refuges.

I will never vote Tory. But if you think I'll vote for any party who hands me over on a plate to some fucker like Adam Graham, you need your head examined.

I am not going to set myself and my female friends and relatives on fire to keep men warm. Fuck that.

Scottish living in Scotland. Very happy she’s gone

I'm not sure about Canadian history but with the notable exception of Nixon US Presidents don't really quit do they? Even if their rating is through the floor or they've been impeached. UK politics is a lot more revolving door as the Tories have showcased in recent times.

I would also say neither country has yet had their Tavistock or Bryson moment in the public consciousness. The swimmer Thomas was a bit of a moment as was fake boob guy in Canada but there's still a way to go and as someone else just said the size of the country will make a difference.

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Good bloody riddance. She has ruined a lot of what has made Scotland such a remarkable country.

Why do you have to be a Scot to care about Scotland?

I'm not ashamed to be a unionist.

Scottish, living in Scotland.
Glad to see the back of her.
Just for the record.

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet good point. You're absolutely right. Most people voted for Biden because there were so many other factors that made him preferable over Trump.

Let's hope Sturgeon's fall will wake up other countries.

I think it’s just another avenue to shut down criticism or dismiss it.

if you don’t worship at the alter of Sturgeon then you must be English/hate powerful women/a Tory/a bigot/unkind… and so on and so on.

Because it would be anathema to accept that many people - Scots and non-Scots, in Scotland and outside it - have legitimate criticisms of Sturgeon based on her actions and the outcomes of her government over nearly a decade now. Not because of anything other than that.

Interesting re: NYT!

I don’t disagree that it’s hard to witness disproportionate punishment meted out to women but ultimately the real reason it’s easier to topple Sturgeon than Trudeau or Biden is likely to be population size.

Scotland is 5.5 mill to Canada’s 39 mill to USA 330 mill.
It’s just easier to capsize a small boat than a big one.

I am, though I live in England now. My parents were SNP members and one of them was an enthusiastic envelope-stuffer for the party at local level, but they resigned last year over the GRR.

@Wiluli
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Wonder how many people posting on here are Scottish?

Not many ! Probably don’t even live in Scotland or have any idea of what Scotland is truly like

I'm Scottish and live in Scotland and delighted that Sturgeon has gone. Awa and bile yer heid

I don't think I've ever liked her. She was my MSP and she was useless. But I did admire her political performance, for a while.

Not many ! Probably don’t even live in Scotland or have any idea of what Scotland is truly like

I'm in Scotland. I even used to like Sturgeon but how the scales fell from my eyes.

There's loads of scots on here - many names I recognise from old indy threads. The assumption that if you don't like the SNP you're not Scottish always entertains though.

I'm not a fan of the SNP because they're mostly a bunch of dimwitted fucknuggets.

All underline that Sturgeon’s commitment to LGBT+ rights was wholly genuine...

So, being in thrall to the Green loons and voting down an amendment to protect women in prisons, from violent and predatory men now counts as "genuine." I see, who wrote the article, Humpty Dumpty?

@ResisterRex
That looks shockingly bad. I wonder if Keir Starmer has made promises to a genderwoo backer or two and that is why he doesn't seem to care about losing women members and is so keen on self-ID? He certainly doesn't strike me as the true believer type, more someone who has calculated that throwing women under the bus will be worth it to keep his party afloat.

People working in the equalities sector
The what?

According to The Guardian:

People working in the equalities sector acknowledge that Sturgeon stepping down will mark a significant change, and there is initial unease and nervousness about what and who comes next, particularly with the UK Conservatives expected to fight the next general election on culture war territory. All underline that Sturgeon’s commitment to LGBT+ rights was wholly genuine and appreciated, and it is certainly that case that of all possible leadership contenders, none are as unapologetic in their support or as engaged in the detail as Sturgeon has been.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/15/nicola-sturgeon-resignation-why-now-and-what-happens-next-on-key-issues

"[E]ngaged n the detail"? Yeah, right!