STURGEON IS QUITTING

TheBiologyStupid · 20/02/2023 00:37

A good piece by Hannah McGill: archive.ph/2sgKO

TheBiologyStupid · 19/02/2023 19:21

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 16:31

Oh that's lovely.

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Excellent professionalism, but very understandably he cracked in the end.

RealFeminist · 19/02/2023 17:09

AHVE ACTUALLY GIVEN UP POLITICS FOR LENT

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 17:04

nauticant · 19/02/2023 16:59

so why does the leadership race have to happen in six weeks?

I quite like the theory that NS should not trigger the Judicial Review on S35 as she's walking out the door, that needs to be done by a new leader, and so the leadership race has to be done by April so a new leader is in place in time for the deadline for the JR.

There's a theory that it won't give Forbes time to get organised.

nauticant · 19/02/2023 16:59

so why does the leadership race have to happen in six weeks?

I quite like the theory that NS should not trigger the Judicial Review on S35 as she's walking out the door, that needs to be done by a new leader, and so the leadership race has to be done by April so a new leader is in place in time for the deadline for the JR.

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 16:31

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 19/02/2023 16:28

I watched this clip earlier.

It’s very ‘gender elephant’

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Oh that's lovely.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 19/02/2023 16:28

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 16:18

the gender elephant needs to stop waving its trunk around.

I watched this clip earlier.

It’s very ‘gender elephant’

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 16:24

RoyalCorgi · 19/02/2023 16:15

WTF is wrong with her? I notice she goes the whole article without mentioning the gender elephant in the room.

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McDermid is fully signed up to "trans women are women". There's no need to mention it.

Had the events of the last couple of weeks not happened McDermid would have been heaping praise on Sturgeon for her progressive policy, but I doubt, Adam Graham aside, McDiarmid has changed her mind.

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/02/2023 16:20

And before anyone says Salmond is a sleaze, I don't doubt it. But he is actually capable of delivering and not just campaigning and he had the skills to negotiate with Westminster.

I agree @LexMitior . People can be sleazes and able politicians.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 16:18

the gender elephant needs to stop waving its trunk around.

RoyalCorgi · 19/02/2023 16:15

Igneococcus · 19/02/2023 07:51

Here: "Val McDermid: How my shrewd pal Nicola Sturgeon changed Scotland"

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c392e3be-af95-11ed-bde0-64a2ad0fcf88?shareToken=f45b87c9b6085f228a0876dff2d3ebad
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c392e3be-af95-11ed-bde0-64a2ad0fcf88?shareToken=f45b87c9b6085f228a0876dff2d3ebad

WTF is wrong with her? I notice she goes the whole article without mentioning the gender elephant in the room.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 16:13

The more I look at this the madder it all seems. Sturgeon fucks off with absolutely no clear successor and few who even seem willing to try. There's no apparent pressing need for her to leave, so why does the leadership race have to happen in six weeks?

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 16:11

Sarwar, at least on gender issues, would gift us the Labour Sex Fudge. Labour have repeatedly shown themselves to be weak as dishwater on this issue (honourable exceptions having all left politics).

No, thank you.

LexMitior · 19/02/2023 16:06

No idea.

Nicola Sturgeon has fucked up her independence cause. Alex Salmond knew, absolutely knew that he had to show that the SNP could govern and then they would a credible party. Then he bartered with Westminster and got his referendum which he very nearly won. That man is an operator. Think of that, he got a referendum. He co-operated with Westminster when it was in Scotland's interest.

What did Nicola Sturgeon do? Failed to govern. Nursed grievances with the Scottish people, picked fights with Westminster (yes you will find out about those soon) so that there was no way to work effectively, and then spent time drafting and pushing forwards laws that were poorly drafted, wrong in law, and constitutionally impossible. She did all of that like a wrecking ball, with a huge dose of self promotion on the top.

Scotland is going to have a look at her achievements and they will look very small. She's certainly ruined what she was given, a healthy basis to convert voters.

And before anyone says Salmond is a sleaze, I don't doubt it. But he is actually capable of delivering and not just campaigning and he had the skills to negotiate with Westminster.

Rainbowshit · 19/02/2023 16:03

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:55

But ... who would take over?

I'd take Sarwar over any of the SNP diddies any day.

Really not a fan of ACH after the GRR nonsense. but don't think he'd be completely incapable.

I don't think the opposition are as bad as you think and certainly no worse then those that have put themselves forward from the SNP.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:55

But ... who would take over?

Rainbowshit · 19/02/2023 15:55

I'm afraid I don't think we can get rid of the SNP without a catastrophic failure of government from them. I think Scotland will be better off without them.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:48

It'd be okay perhaps if we had a functioning opposition ...

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:48

Right, but how would that help Scotland, really? Even if you're not pro-Independence (I'm ambivalent, highly wary), having a government implode, which is what I think Yousaf's is likely to do, is not good for anyone, surely?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 19/02/2023 15:46

😆

Rainbowshit · 19/02/2023 15:43

@NatashaDancing ditto!

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 15:41

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 19/02/2023 15:34

If they go for Yousaf surely they’ll lose the entire country?

Well yes, exactly. That's why he's my top favourite candidate.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 19/02/2023 15:34

If they go for Yousaf surely they’ll lose the entire country?

NatashaDancing · 19/02/2023 15:32

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:29

Yes, Yousaf is utterly hopeless. He's got the reverse Midas touch, it seems.

Yousaf's the candidate for me.

If they go for Regan they will lose the Greens, probably lose the Greens if they go for Forbes.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2023 15:29

Yes, Yousaf is utterly hopeless. He's got the reverse Midas touch, it seems.