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Batshit biologists

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DdraigGoch · 14/02/2023 22:20

Apparently researchers should not use the terms "male" and "female" in case it leads people to believe that sex is binary. Instead "sperm-producing" and "egg-producing" should be used, or "XY/XX individual".

I've rolled my eyes so far that they're stuck looking at the back of my head.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/14/words-male-female-should-banned-science-enforce-idea-sex-binary/

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PomegranateOfPersephone · 15/02/2023 07:26

Do women produce eggs? We have all the eggs we are ever going to have when we are still inside our own mothers. Some of those eggs will ripen during our fertile years but we never make more. Men produce sperm on a 6 weekly cycle. Biology is amazing, our bodies are amazing, what a shame to obscure the many and varied differences between men and women’s bodies and reproductive roles instead of marvelling at them and celebrating them. Gender identity ideology seems to be ushering in a new dark ages when all knowledge and discussion of human reproductive differences will be taboo.

Switchwitch · 15/02/2023 07:18

I bet someone's put the word count up in the lancet so now they're grappling for ways to increase the length of their articles.

I also hate it when it's reported 'scientists say that...' #notallscientists

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 15/02/2023 07:13

Have those biologists managed to stop all the male gamete production the hazel and birch trees have just started? What about the willows?

It would be quite handy, but I think I'll stock up on antihistamines just in case.

FatSealSmugSoup · 15/02/2023 06:40

I like your thread title - and it’s also accurate. Even your poo knows your sex. No amount of trachea shaving or surgery is going to “upgrade” your poo. The skids in your underwear will out you.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 15/02/2023 06:25

@ShireWifeofNigelFarage

'Sperm, Sperg, Spereg, Speregg, Spegg, Egg?'

I think it continues with Meringue, Omelette and culminates with Fabergé.

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 15/02/2023 05:46

EggFemaleWomanXX
SpermMaleManXY
TransSpermMaleLadeeXY
TransEggFemaleMannXX

nepeta · 15/02/2023 05:22

I believe male and female are to be replaced as trans activists want them to refer to gender identity so that all trans women are female and all trans men are male. As that leaves no word for biological sex, the use of XX and XY is proposed as an alternative which is excluding all DSD individuals who are also almost entirely of one sex or the other.

I read some of this to a friend who refused to believe it wasn't a parody! Peaked her by pure accident when I assured her that all this is real.

Double-blind random trials can't be called that anymore! And we probably should not say things like 'running commentary' as it excludes people who can't run, and we shouldn't use 'see', 'hear', or 'touch' in abstract language as they exclude people with difficulties concerning one or more senses.

I am going to have so many new proposals for their list of topics! Lots of material from ageism, classism, etc. available for the eagle-eyed.

aloris · 15/02/2023 01:12

Unfortunately, silliness like this does nothing more than decrease public trust in science. It's sad because the best way to recruit young people into science is to reinforce that it is simple, logical, reasonable, and they can do it. Changing the jargon to fulfill political correctness makes it seem confusing, complicated, irrational, and just way too difficult.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 15/02/2023 00:01

Not biologists, judging by their reported misunderstandings of assorted evolutionary concepts.

Maybe they just identify as scientists.

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 14/02/2023 23:57

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:43

To be a spectrum we need the range of intermediary states. What is the name of the gamete that’s falls two thirds of the way along from sperg to spegg?

Hmmm. We are definitely past 5th grade biology now!

Sperm, Sperg, Spereg, Speregg, Spegg, Egg?

WishingMyLifeAway · 14/02/2023 23:54

What sort of scientists are these? Pseudoscientists?

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:43

To be a spectrum we need the range of intermediary states. What is the name of the gamete that’s falls two thirds of the way along from sperg to spegg?

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 14/02/2023 23:32

I bring evidence for my assertion:

Batshit biologists
Figrolls14 · 14/02/2023 23:27

😁sp🥚

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 14/02/2023 23:25

Spegg.

Obvs.

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:20

Do these so-called ‘biologists’ enlighten us as to what the other gametes are? Egg/sperm seems very binary.

Onnabugeisha · 14/02/2023 23:15

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/02/2023 23:08

Birds, eusocial and other partially-pathenongenic insects, reptiles that use a heat-dependent rather than chromosomal mechanism, European pond turtles (a fascinating hybrid system), plants, platypuses (bucketloads of chormosomes)...

Yes in sea turtles the hotter eggs become female and the cooler eggs become male.

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:14

I notice they also want to rule out non-native (as in non-native plants) and replace it with ‘new arrivals’. Though strangely they don’t seem to object to ‘indigenous’ which you would think they should on this basis.

And ‘invasive’ should now be ‘nuisance’ - ‘the Russian army is being a nuisance in Ukraine’ (ok that is my example not theirs).

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/02/2023 23:12

Given the variety of mechanisms that make egg/sperm and XX/XY far too limited, I suggest the logical alternative to male/female is 0/1.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/02/2023 23:09

😆😆

Fenlandia · 14/02/2023 23:09

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:03

I was thinking more about crocodile, aphids, etc

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Yeah that too!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/02/2023 23:08

Birds, eusocial and other partially-pathenongenic insects, reptiles that use a heat-dependent rather than chromosomal mechanism, European pond turtles (a fascinating hybrid system), plants, platypuses (bucketloads of chormosomes)...

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:07

And won’t anyone think of the poor electrician and plumber?!

Batshit biologists
Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 23:03

Fenlandia · 14/02/2023 23:01

Bit exclusionary to the people who actually have unusual chromosomal arrangements.

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I was thinking more about crocodile, aphids, etc

Onnabugeisha · 14/02/2023 23:02

Shelefttheweb · 14/02/2023 22:59

It wasn’t written by any sort of biologist if they think xx/xy can replace female/male.

True aren’t many birds ZZ male and ZW female?

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