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National Museum of Scotland - people who menstruate

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Holdmypint · 13/02/2023 17:45

The National Museum of Scotland have acquired materials relating to periods through the ages - interesting: blog.nms.ac.uk/2023/02/13/period-products-for-a-21st-century-scotland/

But in an article that talks about the social stigma of periods, it's interesting how a very new social stigma is evident - using the word 'woman'. Yes we do get a desultory mention towards the end, but in the main it's that dehumanising 'people who menstruate ' again, or sometimes just 'people'.

Interesting too how the article mentions provision of period products in schools, so that girls don't have to miss school - never mind the fact that if there are mixed sex toilets in schools, period products are not going to stop girls missing school.

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ArabellaScott · 18/02/2023 18:34

Not a single comment published! Pah.

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2023 18:33

'girls' is fine, of course, when it's used for girls. But when all females are 'girls' it's a different matter.

Suffrajester · 18/02/2023 17:03

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2023 20:13

'girls' is okay because it's infantilising.

'Women' is not because women turn out to be horrible nasty bastards with bad tempers and long memories.

I'm okay with "girls" since girls do menstruate too, I started at 11 and I was nowhere near a woman yet. But no men or boys do.
The NMS annoys me, they have a tour of "LGBTQI+ history" and it's got some great things in it, but it's all things from lesbians and gay men who would never have wanted to be called "queer", let alone what the "+" could stand for. It includes exhibits about Alan Turing who was put on hormones as a punishment for being gay, and they don't see any irony in lumping him in with the TQ+ and all that stuff.

nepeta · 14/02/2023 18:51

IcakethereforeIam · 14/02/2023 08:30

Still no comments showing. I wonder how how much 'Hey.....girls...?' paid for that tedious nonsense. It seems no one's reading it, or at least no one who's buying what they're selling.

Some months ago I commented on a blog post at the NOW website in the US. The post was about the importance of letting transwomen into all women's sports and contained dreadfully biased interpretations of major studies.

My comment never appeared, so a few friends also commented. None of their comments appeared, either.

The authoritarianism of the new progressive feminism is part and parcel of the wider authoritarianism everywhere in politics, but it is heartbreaking to observe happening. Though in this case I suspect that it was the blog author at NOW who decided which comments would be posted. The power from below, so to speak.

WeepyWillow · 14/02/2023 18:05

All women menstruate for a big chunk of their lives.

ArabellaScott · 14/02/2023 09:51

Here the NMS manages to celebrate women scientists. It's a great thread.

twitter.com/NtlMuseumsScot/status/1624355594978172931

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Holdmypint · 14/02/2023 09:38

JanieAllen · 14/02/2023 09:25

Just commented ... watch this space

Well done, here's hoping. It appears on the museum's FB page, with lots of supportive comments, and only one detractor...

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JanieAllen · 14/02/2023 09:25

Just commented ... watch this space

ArabellaScott · 14/02/2023 09:22

Has anyone tested it with some kind of genderist pish comment yet?

IcakethereforeIam · 14/02/2023 08:30

Still no comments showing. I wonder how how much 'Hey.....girls...?' paid for that tedious nonsense. It seems no one's reading it, or at least no one who's buying what they're selling.

Nellodee · 14/02/2023 08:21

Well they’re right about one thing. There certainly have been shifting societal attitudes in Scotland of late. Maybe not in the direction they think, but still…

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2023 20:13

'girls' is okay because it's infantilising.

'Women' is not because women turn out to be horrible nasty bastards with bad tempers and long memories.

nepeta · 13/02/2023 19:41

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 13/02/2023 19:30

Hey girls? How long till they change the name to Hey menstruators?

Should happen soon as we are being told that this is the direction of the future. We are going to have menstruators, but not ejaculators, we are going to have gestating parents for mothers who give birth, but not impregnating parents for the fathers who participated in the conception of that child. We are going to have individuals with a cervix for cervical smear information, but men for prostate cancer information.

The new sexism is the same as the old sexism except now sexism is being pushed by the progressive left, too.

Forgotthebins · 13/02/2023 19:40

Yes the company should follow through with the name change to “hey people”, otherwise they are being very hypocritical.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 13/02/2023 19:30

Hey girls? How long till they change the name to Hey menstruators?

headache · 13/02/2023 19:27

Just a tampon/pad advert.

The irony though talking about “people who menstruate” from a company called “Hey girls”!

JanieAllen · 13/02/2023 19:20

AAAAARFGGH!!!!!!

StrikeItMucky · 13/02/2023 19:18

Oh, what a load of old shit. I can't believe I continued to read the whole of that.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/02/2023 18:53

The wonderful thing is that despite all their earnest pronouncements, their sad bleatings, their inadequate grasp of facts - only women gestate and birth babies. Now, in the past and in the future.

Nature's such a bastard for showing up delusionists for what they are.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 13/02/2023 18:46

Should change their name to Hey People

viques · 13/02/2023 18:44

While it is true that not all women menstruate it is also true that the number of women who do menstruate is a great deal larger than the number of men who menstruate, or have period pains, or get pmt……….

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2023 18:40

Indeed, not all women menstruate!

Is this not first order logic error, or something? 'not all women menstruate, therefore nobody who menstruates is a woman'?

Truthlikeness · 13/02/2023 18:40

WeepyWillow · 13/02/2023 18:31

An exhibtion on social history of periods would be interesting. The whole post (and exhibitionl) is a promo for one tampon and pads mmanufacturer. Plus chance for publicly funded institution to erase women.

What baffles me is the number of young females spouting this stuff or putting 'preferred pronouns' on their email footer. At work I never encounter men who feel the need to justify themselves like that.

Agreed- that was an odd blog post from a Museum - basically an advertorial for a company.

HopRockers · 13/02/2023 18:37

TBF they're quite clear why they're using the (ridiculous) language they've chosen.

"While most people probably interpret periods as a woman’s experience, and period products as women’s things, Hey Girls (and other period product manufacturers) want to acknowledge that not all people who menstruate identify as women. Indeed, not all women menstruate! This recent design change for Hey Girls reflects shifting societal attitudes in Scotland (and beyond) around gender identity, an issue which has become more publicly visible and spoken about."

Hilarious that a period product company called "hey girls" doesn't want to say who actually gets periods - I wonder why they chose their name 🙄

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2023 18:37

Ah, it's moderated. Let's see if they allow the word 'woman' to be used in a comment.

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