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Handmaid, Handmaiden.

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CandlelightGlow · 10/02/2023 18:38

Can someone explain why it's been deemed appropriate to call women who appear to be defending men or considering men in any capacity, handmaids?

Does it mean something else that I'm not aware of? My understanding is it comes from the Margaret Atwood novels, referring to women who are forced into ritualistic rape, pregnancy and childbirth.

How exactly does it link to a woman who in one's opinion, chooses to serve the patriarchy. Is it a term feminists should ever use? There is a strong connotation of victim blaming if you are choosing to refer to another woman as a willing handmaid. How is it justifiable?

I'm not asking for examples of when you would consider someone fitting the definition of "handmaiden". I've seen this term thrown around on a couple of threads recently and I'm concerned that it's become a term used largely by women, to insult other women, often in the context of feminist discussions, and I find it interesting that given this very particular context, it's deemed acceptable to use? Again, given the highly misogynistic connotation feeding into the "willing female victim" narrative that already plagues patriarchal rhetoric.

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Changingplace · 10/02/2023 18:51

AdamRyan · 10/02/2023 18:45

You could Google but I did it for you

"An allusion to Margaret Atwood's novel The Handmaid's Tale (1985), in which "handmaids" are women who serve the male commanders in a patriarchal dystopia"

en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/handmaiden#:~:text=Etymology,commanders%20in%20a%20patriarchal%20dystopia.

Lots of women have a strong internalised misogyny and so support various things that are harmful to women and uphold the patriarchy. E.g. most liberal choice based views on sex work. Handmaiden is shorthand.

It's hardly an offensive term although it is an insult. I can't get too wound up by it tbh

In Handmaids tale a Handmaiden doesn’t choose to serve men/the patriarchy, they’re forced to, it’s not a personal choice.

Onnabugeisha · 10/02/2023 18:50

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 10/02/2023 18:48

It’s nothing to do with Atwood’s book.

It’s ‘handmaiden’ not ‘handmaid’.

The whole phrase is ‘handmaiden of patriarchy’ (‘HOP’ for short) and iirc the reference is biblical.

Biblical handmaidens were slaves.

MagpiePi · 10/02/2023 18:49

Perhaps ‘handmaid’ as described in Margaret Atwood’s novels is not the right term, as they had no choice in the matter, but, how would you describe women who willingly promote the patriarchy to the detriment of other women, and by extension, themselves?

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 10/02/2023 18:48

It’s nothing to do with Atwood’s book.

It’s ‘handmaiden’ not ‘handmaid’.

The whole phrase is ‘handmaiden of patriarchy’ (‘HOP’ for short) and iirc the reference is biblical.

Onnabugeisha · 10/02/2023 18:48

Er, the OP’s question still stands and you’d know that if you’d actually read Atwood’s Handmaids Tale and Last Testaments.

The Handmaids were raped and forced to give birth and then give up their children. The word “serve” in the little handbook you’ve quoted is as a slave, not as a willing servant.

CandlelightGlow · 10/02/2023 18:46

I see, do you think that's why people are using it, or do you think it's mainly used in the context of the Handmaid's Tale, it's quite prominent these days in popular culture. I've always assumed the latter, cursory searches on google seem to agree, but that's if you can consider places like Urban Dictionary a reliable source!

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AdamRyan · 10/02/2023 18:45

You could Google but I did it for you

"An allusion to Margaret Atwood's novel The Handmaid's Tale (1985), in which "handmaids" are women who serve the male commanders in a patriarchal dystopia"

en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/handmaiden#:~:text=Etymology,commanders%20in%20a%20patriarchal%20dystopia.

Lots of women have a strong internalised misogyny and so support various things that are harmful to women and uphold the patriarchy. E.g. most liberal choice based views on sex work. Handmaiden is shorthand.

It's hardly an offensive term although it is an insult. I can't get too wound up by it tbh

EndlessTea · 10/02/2023 18:40

It predates A Handmaid’s Tale on Netflix