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Liverpool - woman who distributed indecent images of children over WhatsApp has walked free from court.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 10/02/2023 14:36

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-distributed-indecent-images-over-26190141?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

"...officers seized a Samsung mobile phone on which they discovered 84 indecent images in category A - those graded as showing the most serious forms of abuse.

These included pictures and videos showing children aged as young as four being raped. Also found were 30 category B images and 35 in category C, which had been collected since October"

Except of course, the offender, Ketan Shende, is not a woman.

Liverpool - woman who distributed indecent images of children over WhatsApp has walked free from court.
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PonyPatter44 · 10/02/2023 18:11

Unfortunately there are so many of these offenders that it genuinely isn't possible to send them to prison. Prisons are bursting at the seams, they are already on the emergency measures.... non-contact sex offenders are already unlikely to be imprisoned. That this particular pervert says he is trans is really not relevant to him not being imprisoned.

BlessedKali · 10/02/2023 17:37

What is the point of a suspended sentence? Why the actual fuck would they not imprison a man who is clearly a threat to children? Why on earth DELAY putting him away? To test him? What the fuck.

Coyoacan · 10/02/2023 17:33

I just can't understand how women can be sent to prison for not paying their TV licenses, but contributing to the destruction of small children is ok?

FrancescaContini · 10/02/2023 17:32

Fucksake

suzyscat · 10/02/2023 17:23

This makes me so angry.

I'm usually able to have quite calm reasonable discussions with friends who disagree with me about this, but the one time it got really heated their argument fell on women being capable of rape/ sexual assault too. Angry Blatant mistruths like this only serve to fuel that tripe.

How that judge let him walk out of the room that day I'll never understand. What are prisons even for?

Delphinium20 · 10/02/2023 17:06

Hope this makes it in "this never happens"

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 10/02/2023 17:05

BoreOfWhabylon · 10/02/2023 14:47

Thing is, it's likely to be recorded as a crime committed by a woman

Yes. And then in the future there will be even more idiots popping up on MN to wail "but women do that crime too,".

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BoreOfWhabylon · 10/02/2023 17:00

Yes, it's not the sentencing, it's the reporting.

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mrshoho · 10/02/2023 16:55

maddy68 · 10/02/2023 16:50

As horrific this seems. The court has all the evidence to make the decisions and we only get sensationalised reports.

Unless you are in that courtroom you are basing judgements on reporting.

I was a magistrate for many years. The reporting versus actual facts varied enormously.

Having said all that. If it was accurate then this is appalling

Setting aside the pathetic sentence given, it's the fact that this is being reported as a woman and it is clearly not. That's what we are so angered about. These are not our crimes.

maddy68 · 10/02/2023 16:50

As horrific this seems. The court has all the evidence to make the decisions and we only get sensationalised reports.

Unless you are in that courtroom you are basing judgements on reporting.

I was a magistrate for many years. The reporting versus actual facts varied enormously.

Having said all that. If it was accurate then this is appalling

TheBiologyStupid · 10/02/2023 16:42

And yet just 0.1% of the population, according to the census. Hmmm...!

nilsmousehammer · 10/02/2023 16:19

Sturgeon will be the first to say "But they haven't abused and offended against women so what's the prob? Stuff them in the showers with women three quarters of whom have been sexually abused, it'll be fine."

This sort of thing has to be heavy on the mind of judges now when trying to balance risk to community with risk to the women these men are dumped on and the issues to the prison service.

PronounssheRa · 10/02/2023 16:14

OrangeToothbrush · 10/02/2023 14:46

I have been following this and discussing on other threads. It is only today, a day after originally publishing, that the Echo amended a quote from the judge, tucked away at the bottom, to mention transition AT ALL.

So it must have been an editorial decision to deliberately ignore reality the elephant in the room here. What for?

I also wonder if that is how they avoided a custodial sentence, nobody wanting to address the issue of where they would be sent.

It will be editorial. The Liverpool echo think they are ever so progressive so any articles about the TQ part of the rainbow is always very biased. 95% of the readership aren't on board, the comments section is usually brutal.

PSNonsense · 10/02/2023 16:11

TheShellBeach · 10/02/2023 16:08

I wonder what would have happened to him if he'd offended in Scotland.

Our politicians would've stood and clapped him no doubt.

TheShellBeach · 10/02/2023 16:08

I wonder what would have happened to him if he'd offended in Scotland.

TheShellBeach · 10/02/2023 16:07

Alphabetasoul · 10/02/2023 15:56

I'm not excusing what they have done but they look as if they have some sort of mental disability which could skew their thinking . Their devices and internet activity should be monitored either by carers or family if they have them .

You're not serious.

mrshoho · 10/02/2023 16:05

They just keep on coming. All these examples of what we were assured would never happen ay.

Nicola Sturgeon, Keir Starmer, do you get it now?? Or are you going to continue to ignore or just make up the classifications as each one of these pieces of filth is uncovered.

Clymene · 10/02/2023 16:04

Alphabetasoul · 10/02/2023 15:56

I'm not excusing what they have done but they look as if they have some sort of mental disability which could skew their thinking . Their devices and internet activity should be monitored either by carers or family if they have them .

He 'looks' as if he has a mental disability? WTF Confused The judge didn't mention it when he let him walk free from court.

"I note you have a history of depressive illness, a mixed personality disorder and gender dysphoria. You have also abused alcohol, which seems to have stemmed from an unhappy childhood and emotional trauma as you seek to transition from male to female."

If you're talking about the head tilt, that's a thing men do when they're trying to look like women.

Westfacing · 10/02/2023 16:03

Excuse my ignorance - is it actually illegal for the papers to refer to such a person as a 'Transwoman' or is it guidelines?

It's just so misleading for the headline to state 'Woman' - I'm sick of it.

Wiccan · 10/02/2023 15:58

Disgusting that his struggles / mental health / alcohol use are more important than the pain / abuse & fear that these poor children have gone through . The sick fuck should be behind bars !

Alphabetasoul · 10/02/2023 15:56

I'm not excusing what they have done but they look as if they have some sort of mental disability which could skew their thinking . Their devices and internet activity should be monitored either by carers or family if they have them .

AnyFucker · 10/02/2023 15:50

I am aware that “making” can actually mean distributing images but if you read the article it mentions the two acts separately. Perhaps it’s poor reporting but I would be interested in exactly what this bloke has actually got away with

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 10/02/2023 15:49

Alexandernevermind · 10/02/2023 14:42

#notourcrimes

This this and this.

I'm so fucking angry.

This is worth marching for

Clymene · 10/02/2023 15:47

I used to work with a bloke called Ketan. Ketan is a male name. Hope this bloke rots in hell.

GCAcademic · 10/02/2023 15:46

The term “making indecent images” is misleading. It doesn’t mean he made a film or photograph. Generally it refers to someone forwarding an image or film to someone else.

He’s still a fucking horror though.