"periods: a genderless function" FFS!!!

It is so strange (not) that one of the functions of womanhood has been co-opted by these people.
And lets not try to pretend this is anything to do with FTM trans people, although there are a few exceptions.
This is everything to do with male born trans people attempting to blur the lines of sex.
Is is astounding the sheer number of these people who are all over social media talking about periods, how they can have periods, pms, pmt, cramps, talking about tampons and other sanitary products, talking about handing out these products, buying them, it just goes on.
It's not just Dylan Mulvaney, seriously, there are loads.

It does seem to be quite the obsession.
The recent "uterus transplant" story also covered the fact that trans women would not necessarily want to use their new body part to give birth, but that they would want to experience menstruation.
It does seem, in my opinion, to be the "thing that must not be named" on this site.
In fact, that's the very definition of it. An obsession with female form and function for various purposes. I obviously cant say much more than that.

Those women who are joining in with all this "periods are genderless" nonsense are just playing right into the hands of these males. Again, its NOTHING to do with female born trans people identifying as male who want gender neutral language around bodily functions.
It's EVERYTHING to do with male born trans people who want their (redacted word that cannot be said) satisfied.

Great post

and your pist was perfectly understandable howmany 😀

I'm glad you understood my autocorrected nonsense! And I completely agree.

Exactly, @howmanybicycles.

The word "woman", as per its original and primary meaning, is already inclusive of all adult human females, of which Oscar is one.

This is the case regardless of the fact that Oscar and some adult human females like Oscar have decided that they do not want the word "woman" to include them. What baffles me is why they now want us to come up with other words for "adult human female" and use them instead of "woman" so that they can be included. Either you want to be included, trans men and female "non binary people", or you don't. Which is it? Please make your minds up because this constant complaining about not being included within the existing language which you have unilaterally decided you don't want to include you is getting more than a little wearing.

It's not so hard to understand why some adult human males want us to use the word "woman" in a way that includes them. But I don't see any good reason why we should pander to them.

Oscar was included in the first definition though so Oscar doesn't need to say Oscar did in this ad. You're saying that Oscar is both a woman and a man. In which case iblÿ women have periods.

I just came here to see if anyone had written about this.
For god's sake.
It reminds me of when I realised I was not on side with the gender issue, being in a meeting at work where someone said "it's not just women who have babies"

(This was the result of a discussion about whether maternity leave should have its name changed).

This was years ago and there was very little GC talk at the time. I work in HE and genuinely felt I would face a disciplinary situation if I raised any objections. It's not much easier now but at least I know others feel the same.

Oh and obviously we, a family with many females who have periods, will not be buying from ModiBodi. Stupid idiots.

What a strange human Oscar is.

Yes, I read a statistics on that somewhere. Only a minority of women (females of any age rather) are within the menstruating bracket in any given period (pun not intended) because of age, sexual maturity, pregnancy etc.

Anyway.

What a load of shite to say periods are genderless!

Tell that to my non-verbal child who now is getting periods but have no concept of what either sex or gender is.
Despite this, should a male force himself on her she may now still become pregnant despite her being a tween.

This twisting and turning of language has consequences, as the dire situation with rapists in Scottish female prisons has shown with abundant clarity - 10 years overdue!

I did not pay attention. To my shame. Wanted to be kind. Was busy not being killed by my then partner (male) and afterwards salvaging the wreckage for my children.
No excuse really, but when I did start to pay attention the massive problems were screaming in my face, precisely because of my experiences as a woman.

I don’t like all women. Very few, in fact. I certainly don’t agree with all of them - again, very few. But we share a biology that makes us vulnerable in most human societies.
And periods are a big fucking deal to do with that.

If you say that periods can be a masculine thing and women can have penises it means you can widen the scope of transgenderism because people can transition without the hard graft.

All the fun of playing dress up with none of the life changing commitment of brutal surgeries.

It's either sheer laziness to commit, a deep-down knowledge that they're actually too damn scared to fully commit, or they've decided to troll society until it bends to their will to provide "essential trans gender healthcare" (read surgery) at the snap of their fingers. I.e., if you won't give us surgery at the drop of a hat on the NHS then we'll just force everyone to say that these sex-based biological functions and features can be a characteristic of either sex.

Which leads to the question- if all of these biological features and functions are sexless, how can you have any right to demand surgeries, hormones and puberty blockers? "I'm a man so I want medical intervention to remove my breasts and stop my periods." Reply: "why on earth would you want to do that? Men also have periods, breasts and vaginas."

Men can even get pregnant now apparently so any desire for a so-called "man" to surgically alter himself to appear more manly should be shot down as bigotry. In fact, how fucking dare you insinuate that men can't have breasts, wide hips, periods and wombs. Bigot.

I'm pretty sure that once you add up post menopausal women, pregnant, postpartum and breastfeeding women and any women using hormonal contraception which suppresses their ovulation, most women do not in fact currently menstruate. We need a term which is inclusive of all adult human females.

It's like joining a vegan dining club when you happily eat meat, then insisting that those claiming that vegans don't eat meat are bigoted and phobic - because 'we're all vegans here', but some of us do eat meat; so how dare you be so uninclusive as to deny my identified reality, which is every bit as valid as yours (even if the others don't identify as vegans: they just never eat meat).

Why didn't TW stick to the rules rather than using their male privilege to bully people into changing them?

How do I let people know that I'm a woman solely in the biological sense and therefore should not have to share any sex segregated spaces with people using an entirely different definition?

I think the endometriosis men are the wrong kind of men.

Maybe they might take endometriosis seriously now it's also a 'man's problem' 🙄

But has been pointed out before, I am sure, women who don't have periods for whatever reason ( e.g. health, older women) are still actually women of the female sex so his "argument" fails on that point alone. These particular women still maintain their female chromosomes.

Yes, I am a woman because I am an adult human female.

I am not the same thing as an adult human male who calls themself a woman because they believe woman is an identity.

In the same way that the sole on the bottom of your shoe is not a type of fish.

So why are we being lumped together with these males with identities?

That was a very long winded way of saying we cannot stop males from invading women's spaces and sporting categories.

<shrug>

I can change wikipedia and redefine carrots as a type of panda. It isn't going to change reality, it just means I've exploited a system to force my wishes on others and to try and make it a 'thing'. For my own benefit.

It isn't a case of live and let live, is it? I'm fine with others calling themselves whatever they happen to feel like. When they start however redefining and controlling my language, they are going to get told some home truths about boundaries and respect for others.

Sporting category - read the rules

The rules which, in too many cases at the moment are grossly unfair and sometimes unsafe for women and girls? Those rules?

Sporting category - read the rules

Toilets - tricky!

Clearly you don't have to accept the way in which some people use the word, in the same way that an astrophysicist might stick to a very strict interpretation of the word star and be irritated by people who use it in a scientifically inaccurate way. But you cannot really stop people adapting language and nor can you stop dictionaries recording changed usage of words.

Oh goody. I get to be a subclass of a mixed sex group so men aren't sad.

No.

Like I suggested, read it! You don't need to identify as anything. You too are a "woman"

A1 [ C ]
an adult female human being
^^
^dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/woman^

Do you understand the purpose of language?

That it is a tool for communication?

If a toilet or a sporting category is labelled as being for women, or for females, how do we know what this means? How are members of the public supposed to understand whether this refers to sex, or identity? And if the latter, where are the toilets and sporting categories for the vast majority of people who do not have a "gender identity"?

If your position is that the toilet or sporting category in question is for people who are either of the female sex, or of the male sex but "identify as" female (whatever the fuck that means), why? What is the purpose of this category?

We don't need sporting categories for people who are either female or are male but identify as female any more than the type of fish called "sole" and the bottom of your shoe both need to be kept in the fridge.

How?

I don't "identify as" anything.

The thing with actually being female is that you don't need to "identify as" female, and in fact you are female whether you identify as such or not, and whether you like it or not.

It's not an identity.