Maya’s response to Radical Notion’s GC divisions

Thanks for all these screenshots.

No fucking moral compass.

And claims to be ‘unsurprised’ that a trans person of the born-with-a-penis variety is a member of the Oathkeepers (a US Right Wing Militia, way more serious and dangerous than The Proud Boys)
www.nytimes.com/2022/11/29/us/politics/oath-keepers-trial-verdict-jan-6.html

Okay, I haven't had time to do my due diligence this morning and I was hoping others had, and you have. I had no idea SW was so public. I thought the whole point of Helen Belcher and SW was working behind the scenes and not in public.

A few years ago I was in touch with a woman who was trying to do a profile on SW — a proper grown-up balanced feature for a well-known publication — and SW was extremely unhelpful and pleaded privacy. It seemed unlikely, given how careful about publicity she was then, that she wold be pouring it out on Reddit. But hooray!

Hadley Freeman (and seems to be saying that some Nazis were trans, whilst berating Hadley, a Jewish woman, for not wanting kids to be subjected to experimental drugs and surgeries)

Mention of Caroline Farrow

I went to a tech conference pre-Covid where almost everyone was in jeans & comfortable shoes, apart from the one bloke in a tight scarlet & black dress & high heels.

There is no way anyone could fake a profile this detailed

Look at some of the other posts (the one about kids on the bus is from the Manchester subreddit)

Whittle came on a mumsnet thread wittering on, posturing, boasting and raising eyebrows with a cavalier attitude to child safeguarding. If I remember rightly, regarding our concerns about teenaged boys sharing tents with girls at Girl Guides, Whittle thought you just need to supply the kids with condoms and be done with it. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s genuine. Sounds it.

Is there any solid evidence that SW's Reddit is anything to do with Press for Change Stephen Whittle?

After playing a very close game for many years it would seem an extraordinarily stupid thing to do.

I do question the mocking piece. Pointing at men and saying they look ridiculous in women's clothes, just reinforces the idea that some clothes are reserved some some sexes.

I don't think that's it. It's about the local man who's been known for years to have major MH issues, who now goes to buy chips each lunchtime dressed in fishnet tights, a mini skirt and black patent ankle boots with 6-inch heels with full make-up over heavy stubble. It's about the trans lesbian who turns up on a lesbian-only camping weekend in pink micro shorts, a strappy top and an M&S lady-fleece while all the lesbians are wearing cargo pants and men's shorts and walking boots and beanies.

I've never pointed or ridiculed, but when I first encountered chip shop man I certainly did a double take and maybe a quick nervous laugh, because this is not how 99% of women would present in the circumstances.

And this is not the first time we have seen some of the old guard, those who prefer to call themselves transsexuals despite all the abuse they get for it from the TQ+ lobby, see what it coming and try to re draw the line between themselves and other TQ people in a way that would exclude those people but still permit transsexuals access to women's single sex spaces.

They can blame Christine Burns and Press for Change for that. Burns’s book includes an account of how they worked on popularising ‘trans’ as a catch-all term so that the general public wouldn’t differentiate between transsexuals and transvestites.

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Yes, Whittle is a weirdo fantasist pretending to be a jolly old duffer. Maybe JB was just going ‘mmmm’ ‘uh huh’ and knows better than to get on the wrong side of the crazies.

Fair point, but still, JB is very strong on women in prisons. It’s disturbing she would. To me anyway.

A bit of s’whittling away at JB and other lefty terves would certainly explain some of the ideas in the RN, eh?

Still, I’m inclined to think the comments I found are just puffery in Stephen Whittle’s fanfic about Stephen Whittle.
If any of us were cornered at a political party event and told stories of a young adult woman getting abusive messages online we’d be sympathetic to that woman.

That doesn’t mean we’d suddenly see the error of our ways and sprinkle rose petals on Eddie Izzard’s path to the ladies lavatory.

Careful what your targeted ads are going to start throwing up for you 😂

(Phone keeps trying to autocorrect Sex Matters to Sex Matresses...)

I've never trusted Bindel (I know I've banged this drum many times before) but I don't think she can do any harm now. The nonsense from RN and the Real Feminists only makes ordinary women and men more swayed to the side of campaigns like Sex Matters and Let Women Speak.

I find it so disturbing that these transactivists have so little understanding about normal drives. Whittle witters:

“some abject pathetic bloke who tried and failed to pick up that interesting woman in a bar only to be mocked at later by mates who tell him she is trans.”

People are allowed to care about the sex of the person they are interested in and to feel disturbed, freaked out, angry, conned, foolish, if they discover that person had concealed their sex and is in fact the opposite sex.

It’s totally normal to feel that way. It’s not just their mates taking the piss that would bother them, it’s the deception in and of itself.

These TAs seem like they are away with the fairies with this. As though, if it wasn’t for their mates taking the piss, most men would happily shack up with transsexual man and what? Adopt? Buy/traffic a child through surrogacy? It’s so naive and oblivious to normal drives.

More fool JB if she is giving Whittle any time or attention

person who wants to spend their life pretending to be something they’re not and to force others to pretend they can’t see what sex they are is manipulative and duplicitous. What a shocker

I agree. Might round it up a bit as well

I also feel alarmed that SW believes she has some kind of hold over Julie Bindel and was talking to her recently about the accusations of KJK associating with the ‘Proud Boys’.

I mean, KJK gets to hear JBs views because she’s spouting insinuations over twitter, but Whittle has some hot line and can get those manipulative hooks directly into JB and can work at her until she is ‘contrite’. WTF?

More like wittering

Here's a suggestion for all of us who subscribed and then unsubscribed to The Radical Notion. Let's send the money we would have spent on subscriptions to Sex Matters instead. This year's sub to RN would have been £22, so I'm about to send £22 to Sex Matters.

sex-matters.org/take-action/donate/

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Is the Prince of the Stuffed Envelopes Stephen Whittle?