Queer appropriation

It was a lazy, disingenuous characterisation definitely.

Chapelle seems to have survived his brush with Cancel Culture/ the EDI Vampire though, so fuck those guys (and well done to Netflix for refusing to throw him under the bus).

To bring this back on topic, at least with the comments from the Grammys CEO above we can be pretty sure that they won’t throw Harry Styles won’t be thrown to the Cancel-Culty Wolves.

Also, Harry beat Sam in the battle of the silver jumpsuits

That’s such a lie about Chappelle. He didn’t “defend” DaBaby, he humourously pointed out that DaBaby shot a Black man, in public, and no one cares, but then he said an anti-gay slur and he got cancelled.

He’s not defending the slur, he’s making a point about the relative worth of Black lives and the selectiveness of outrage - that people are more concerned about words than actual violence.

amen to that, sister

I really don't care what the silly fuckers wear, in fact I think that choosing to present as a feminine looking man whilst refraining from stealing women's safe spaces, sports, prizes and grants is a positive thing. Shows that it can be done without being complete arses towards the women they claim to want to be.

I am all for there being many varied ways of being a man, without them having to claim that they are women. If the state of manhood was more inclusive there is less reason for men to pretend to be women. They can just be feminine men.

In the same way that women can present as masculine, do a job that would be considered mans work but still be considered a woman, men should be allowed the same freedom of expression and still be considered a man.

Unless of course most of them are just sexual predators or emotionally stunted manchildren. Which I am prepared to accept.

I like this quote from big boss CEO for the Recording Academy:

Harvey Mason jr
The Hollywood Reporter in part, “We don’t control who the voters vote for.”

“If the voters feel like a creator deserves a nomination, they’re going to vote for them,” Mason jr. said, addressing controversial nominees. “We’re never going to be in the business of deciding someone’s moral position or where we evaluate them to be on the scale of morality. I think our job is to evaluate the art and the quality of the art. We can make sure that all of our spaces are safe and people don’t feel threatened by anyone. But as far as the nominations or the awards, we really let the voters make that decision

Ohh I LOVE that Dave won this.

In an irony similar to JKR, The Closer is actually dedicated to a transwoman who was a friend of Dave's. TRAs hounded her and she committed suicide.

JKR, "I know and love trans people."

Chapelle: dedicates final punchline in honor of transwoman who is a fellow comedian.

Honestly-who hates transpeople, really?!?

Not worth a new thread but seeing as The Grammy’s came up in this one:

Dave Chapelle win.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/dave-chappelle-grammy-netflix-the-closer-trans-controversy-1235316559/

Well yes.
I was an eighties teenager, all my male friends wore shedloads of makeup, and all kinds of outfits, whether gay or straight. It feels as though we have gone backwards into strict stereotyping.

Also, you just know they have missed ALL the prog rock guys AND the poodle rock dudes in their Quest for Outrage

Harry Styles, Harry Schmyles.

I want to know what they think about Timothee Chalet (? Spelling) in his halterneck outfit! He is even prettier than Styles, so maybe his (zis) appropriation is more .. eh appropriate.

Maybe

Surely though giving the message that men wearing dresses is only for gay/queer men is reinforcing stereotypes of what it means to be gay?

Maybe the people criticising him are American ? There is a much longer British tradition of bands breaking stereotypes .

I don’t understand the logic behind saying he appropriates “queer style”.
he wears dresses and other traditionally stereotypically female clothing. Why is that appropriating queer people and not just wearing what he wants?

THE MOB CAME FOR BEYONCÉ?

😱😱😱😱

I agree. I love him too. Did these people never see Bowie ? Or Marc Bolan? Mick Jagger ? Grace Jones ? Annie Lennox ?

Styles always looks like he badly needs a bath.

And the less said about Smith... well, the more he'll hate it, I suppose.

And they are all appropriating 90s/2000s stuff and attempting to apply ‘Queer’ social rules on top.

The punk sub Reddit is basically stuck in a never ending loop where teenagers make declarations about this thing or that thing not being punk and older millennials and gen Xers trying to point out that making rules about what is and isn’t punk isn’t punk.

Also, the young ‘uns want to posthumously cancel GG Allin.

I thought about appropriation early with the news from the Grammy Awards:

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11717613/Beyonc-slammed-dedicating-Grammys-win-queer-community-Dubai-gig.html

Do you think they would have gone after Bowie for being too heteronormative?

I came across the word ‘homonormative’ for the first time the other day.

Some of the people I follow on Instagram are constantly sharing stories about how awful Harry Styles is for appropriating "queer culture" despite not being queer.

Personally I love him. A man wearing a dress without claiming he's a woman. Fab. plus he's hot

Non binary and gender fluid young uns and the ever-shifting sands of what is and isn’t socially acceptable is going to cause all
sorts of bother within the progressive, intersectional stack.
The tradtrans crowd aren’t going to be spared and they certainly can’t keep up - I just found this,
RMW misgendering Sam Smith on Twitter:

Poor Sam Smith.
They’re/They’re Sam Smith.