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Queensland self-ID Bill is loopier than Scotland

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MarinaRhinella · 05/02/2023 10:57

Whilst the Scottish gender self-ID legislation founders, here in Queensland (AUS) the Labor state government is ploughing ahead with a Bill that is even more insane. www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work-of-Committees/Committees/Committee-Details?cid=170&id=4219
This Bill will allow:

  • change of "sex" on birth certificate each year, up to 3 times
  • "sex" is not binary of course, and you can be non-binary, genderqueer, agender, or ANYTHING YOU LIKE, as long as it is not obscene and you can show that it is in use....so, gendermaverick, illusoboy, omnigender are all fine. To be listed as "sex" for God's sake.
  • a "developmentally informed" practitioner, who could be your child's physiotherapist or school guidance counsellor, can help a 12 year old go to court to change their name and sex on their birth certificate, against parental approval.
  • organisations working with children will no longer have any exemption from anti-discrimination law. Fetishists can queue up to be scout leaders and wear their prosthetic breasts to school.
It becomes interesting when it intersects with other laws. Strip searching in prisons needs two guards of the same sex as the prisoner. If the prisoner is illusoboy sex, this could be a challenge.

Spare a thought for us and please help publicise. The media has mostly not noted this impending law.

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TangledWebOfDeception · 06/02/2023 10:50

Now is the time to smack that shit down. They can't jail you all.

EdithStourton · 06/02/2023 10:45

Queensland has been drinking a lot of KoolAid lately.

💐for those of you who live there.

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 06/02/2023 10:41

For those with children at school in Queensland, or who are interested in just what is going on currently in Education in Australia:

Trans Guidance

www.qhrc.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/24535/QHRC_TransAtSchool_forschools.pdf

Education Qld

education.qld.gov.au/student/Documents/diversity-information-for-principals.pdf

education.qld.gov.au/student/Documents/diversity-parent-fact-sheet.pdf

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 06/02/2023 10:37

I didn’t know about Grace Grace’s child. It explains a hell of a lot.

BananaBender · 06/02/2023 10:00

I had no idea about her child. Did some googling and it appears that her daughter identifies as non-binary. Daughter is about 28 or 29 years old.

What’s particularly strange is that they adopted her at 2 months old. There’s hardly any babies available for adoption in Australia. Maybe they adopted her from overseas but that’s nearly impossible too unless you have bucket loads of money.

Education Minister but she went to an all girls religious private school and she sent her child to a private Catholic primary school. Nice one. So she knows bugger all about state schools.

MarinaRhinella · 06/02/2023 09:09

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · Today 00:27
It is not spoken about here.
I stumbled on the Education Queensland (Queensland Government) Trans Guidance for Primary State Schools and it is horrifying.

> Grace Grace who is the education minister apparently has a trans-ID kid. This may explain a lot

Honestly it feels like this part of government policy is being dictated by the blue-haired teenage children of Labor Party politicians.

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MarinaRhinella · 06/02/2023 09:05

For those asking, yes Kellie-Jay Keen is going to Brisbane on her tour. I hope that Qld police are helpful like Glasgow police.

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JacquelinePot · 06/02/2023 08:09

I know it's been said before but it really is a cultural revolution, isn't it?

They are training kids to belive in this new religion, enacting legislation that will break up dissenting families and in the long-term? I'm frightened to think of the consequences of cohorts of young people who were fed this garbage as kids.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 06/02/2023 05:42

It is the same playbook bent plays out under a cloak of silence.

BananaBender · 06/02/2023 04:24

Another Qlder here. I’d vaguely read some stuff about this but didn’t realise that they were actually getting on with changing the law.

Does Annastacia want to get voted out? The LNP sucks but with the youth crime outbreak Labor might get a hard time at the next election.

For the person who asked if we have a second tier of government in this state - no we don’t. That would be the Senate or upper house and it was abolished in Qld years ago. We still have two tiers at the federal level.

Tania Marshall might be worth contacting on Twitter. Pretty sure she lives in Queensland.

My 13 year old DD has just started high school and I was curious about what the rules are if there’s a trans girl at school wanting to access the girls toilets. Turns out that they can access them with no limitations and parents and students can’t object. That’s bullshit. I know my DD would be likely to ask why they’re in there and point out that they’re a boy. That or be very wary of using the toilets. She’s well aware that men and boys can be a massive safety risk to women and girls.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 06/02/2023 03:39

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/02/2023 20:59

Kellie Jay Keen is going to Aus soon, isn't she?
Will she be visiting QLand on her tour?

I’m not sure where she will be visiting but I will be out to support her if it is anywhere near me.

She has updated her shopfront and a limited selection of Adult Human Female products are now available in Australia. I shall be ordering!

GoodOldJK · 06/02/2023 00:50

I’m in Queensland too. I had no idea. Horrifying.

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 06/02/2023 00:27

It is not spoken about here.

I stumbled on the Education Queensland (Queensland Government) Trans Guidance for Primary State Schools and it is horrifying.

  • Any school student can declare themselves transgender, and immediately are permitted to use the opposite sex facilities.
  • Anyone showing any concern/hesitation/disbelief is to be condemned.
  • The Guidance mentions several times that anyone dissenting (ie not using preferred pronouns/affirming/going along with males in female toilets/change rooms/etc) will be referred to the AntiDiscrimination Commission, and charged.
  • School staff are expected to affirm any child who decides they are trans, even if the parents do not know/disagree (as affirmation at school may “educate” any dissenting parent).
  • Parents who are “anti-trans” and refuse to affirm are to be referred to the Anti-Discrimination Commission/authorities.

The Local Council is similarly captured, with absolute support for DQSH, etc.

A young male campaigner against DQSH was driven to suicide seemingly by activists and allies targeting him.

There are trans-identifying male prisoners in female jails/prison.

All levels are captured and no one generally in the community seems to know the full extent of just how terrifying it is.

Weesiewoo · 06/02/2023 00:22

EatDiamondsForBreakfast · 05/02/2023 10:59

That’s horrifying and I live in QLD! I had no idea!

Eeeek! Same!!

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2023 00:20

MarinaRhinella · 05/02/2023 23:08

Sorry for confusion. It is only once a year, that you can change sex. But to a maximum of three times. Just make sure you don't get stuck as some unfortunate sex on the third attempt.

Oh, well, that's much better!

I just ughhhhhh.

They are Muppets. Bloody Muppets!

MarinaRhinella · 05/02/2023 23:08

Sorry for confusion. It is only once a year, that you can change sex. But to a maximum of three times. Just make sure you don't get stuck as some unfortunate sex on the third attempt.

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NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:29

How is this not a pisstaking comedy sketch?

If you can just make up any old shit 3 times a year, why don’t they make it an optional extra, rather than a substitution for sex?

TangledWebOfDeception · 05/02/2023 21:51

Rainbowshit · 05/02/2023 11:36

That last point is horrifying. Queer theory really is just about getting access to children isn't it?

No boundaries. ‘No one is allowed to say no to me.’

Helleofabore · 05/02/2023 21:42

Queensland is my home state and I have been watching this from afar. It is very concerning. When I was back for a visit mid year last year, no one was talking about this really. Most of my family are simply are not aware.

I hope enough there is enough time for push back.

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/02/2023 20:59

Kellie Jay Keen is going to Aus soon, isn't she?
Will she be visiting QLand on her tour?

Casilero · 05/02/2023 14:23

World really has gone mad

Abccde · 05/02/2023 14:21

You've got to hand it to TRAs - how they have managed to convince those in power that this is progressive is incomprehensible.

I do imagine that there will be a massive backlash against this in the future - especially from those kids who will be most harmed.

This is essentially state sponsored abuse.

FrancescaContini · 05/02/2023 13:52

😧

Britinme · 05/02/2023 13:41

It's totally batshit. I note this tweet in response to what Rachel Wong said:

*82,000 men have sued the Boy Scouts of America for sexual abuse by scoutmasters

these were not scoutmasters that became predators these were predators that became scoutmasters,
Self Id gives predatory men access to male free safe spaces for woman.*

Shelefttheweb · 05/02/2023 12:06

If you are a parent, do you get to change your name on your child’s birth certificate as well as your own? Or will birth certificates cease to link generations and only provide a record of the fact a child was born at time/date/place? Or if your parents no longer exist on official paperwork and you are changing your name too, what does it prove? How can you show it links to you? And if you can’t, what’s to stop other people changing your birth certificate?