Brendan O'Neill - Spiked

Yes. It's good old fashioned western world colonization

Hostile take over, silence and disempower the natives, ban their culture and language and enforce enactment of the obviously superior beliefs of the colonisers, hang a few as an example to the rest about any ideas of rebellions, and then take and indoctrinate the kids before they learn the old, backward, heathen ways of the indigenous

This is brilliant!

I agree.

On Dylan’s own YouTube channel.

Has anyone seen any footage of pre transition Mulvaney? I had assumed that Mulvaney already had those gestures and mannerisms before he decided he was a trans woman. Same with someone like Blair White.

Thirded!

I've never considered myself to be a feminist and am also in agreement with @7Worfs Worf

As for mulvaney, you'd think having paid all that money for his plastic
surgery, ( which doesn't make him look any different, imo ) that they'd have done something about his eyes. I've never seen so many lines on the face of a 25/26 year old.
And jeffrey, is just scary! Certainly not someone i would trust within 100 miles of kids!
I'm not sure that i'll actually ever forgive Odins Men, for bringing those 2 characters to my attention, to be fair!

I was thinking about this earlier.

I reckon I would probably agree with some opinions of every single person, living or dead, on the planet.

I would probably also disagree with some opinions of every single person, living or dead, on the planet.

As I am not a monk living in solitude atop a mountain I will have to accept the fact that most people don't agree on bloody everything! So I don't let it stop me talking to them, or reading their stuff.

I think the implication is that he might infect us with wrongthink. Or that this is evidence that all his opinions are rubbish?

Actually I'm not sure

Oh, and Jeffrwhatsit. Yes. No sparkly eyeshadow in the world can disguise how scary that man is.

I don't really understand the need to warn us about someone who may have other views we don't agree with, is all.

I read his article, enjoy it and appreciate the insight. I'm not planning to elope with him, or run off and join the Church of Brandon O Neill, or post him my firstborn.

So why the grave injunctions? What is the risk? Someone might recklessly take out a subscription to Spiked?

I remember the Revolutionary Comminist Tendency from the 70s. They were certainly weird. They struck me as very narcissistic and elitist. But people can grow up. O'Neill is what he is. Unless you believe in some Manichaean almighty struggle between absolute good and absolute evil, it's possible to read something for just what it says. It's a good article.

That guy is going to one where we all go. "Really? Him? You do shock me!🙄"

I was just discussing yon one with a pal yesterday and she said exactly the same thing about the serial killer vibe - "there's real cold hate in those eyes" were her words.

I've always found Jeffrey to be much more upsetting/enraging but couldn't articulate why, but I can now...

More of the shoot the messenger, but not the message.

Time and time again people struggle to find anything to argue against in these articles, so instead must attack the person in an attempt to invalidate the argument.

Horrible man slags off horrible man

AND OF COURSE IT'S THE WOMEN'S FAULT

Anyway, I've asked several times but those of you who are keen that we don't read Bren haven't any suggestions for who we can read. Because the left has abandoned women.

Further, as regards his past around feminist articles, including one linked to, I don't see any problem with it. He's perfectly entitled to say that the reaction to those ads was censorious, if he wants. It's a point of view. It is possible, I think, to believe that ads like that should be allowed to exist and also that women are a legitimate closed group with shared interests.

mach2 · Today 15:55

Spiked are a funny lot with an odd backstory. Now I've heard gender critical pieces mocked because they appear in the Daily Mail or on GB news...

I tend to agree with that, because as has been said here and elsewhere, ad nauseam,^ if the Guardian and New Statesmen are choosing not to report these stories, or twisting them into grotesque parodies of what's actually happening, what should we do? Ignore the Mail, Spiked and Telegraph?

There is little other choice, is there?

He’s proper child-catchery.

That Jeffrey chap is worse - he has the serial killer vibe about him.

Yes, Mulvaney is a caricature of women.

I honestly don't understand how anyone takes Dylan seriously.
All the girlhood bullshit makes me queasy when you realise he's a 26 year old male filming himself doing cartwheels in high heels squealing.

The permanent inane grin and wide eyes is as scary as it is fake.

This is an interesting thread and I love reading mumsnetters thoughts and benefitting from their knowledge. On a much more mundane level, I thought the photo in the article was a before as that's very clearly a man's face.

I feel exactly the same way.

And it’s fucking bonkers that here in 2023, a woman’s right to free speech, free association and not seeing a stranger’s cock in a female only space aren’t things that automatically reside under the Feminism header.

Weird isn't it. Sex that most binary of things is now on a spectrum. And politics a very spectrum type thing from far right to far left and everything in between, and then they only see a binary.

Go figure!

there's so much confusion about whether they are on the left or the right

It's almost like sometimes people can't be neatly separated into boxes marked 'left' and 'right'.

I'm starting to think 'politically homeless' is a very rational position for more reasons than just 'genderism'.

O’Neill has platformed plenty of women on his podcast in relation to trans activism over the last couple of years. He’s a good interviewer and allows his guests to say what they want to say. I don’t see why someone like him shouldn’t be genuinely interested in something that strongly impacts on free speech (which is his primary focus). I actually think that it has dawned on him that misogyny is alive and kicking.

Jokes on you, I’m not a feminist. In fact if I post my political opinions here your head would explode.

I just don’t want men compelling my language, watching me pee, showing me their penis and demanding it becomes law I validate their delusion OR ELSE.

Oh, and the small matter of undermining children’s boundaries and safety.