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Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen

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IwantToRetire · 04/02/2023 01:07

The main source to this story is the Daily Mail:

The firm also made a T-shirt designed by Ms Keen and worn by JK Rowling which described First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as a 'Destroyer of women's rights' over the controversial Gender Recognition Act.

But now the company - who has accepted £75,000 of orders from the cause - now says they are 'offensive material'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11709415/Anger-woke-firm-refuses-print-stickers-defining-women-adult-human-females-trans-row.html

Although there is a twitter thread about this mobile.twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1620102242396409857

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Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2023 15:05

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yeah we get it, you don't like people and we are all wrong. How many threads are you planning on doing this on today?

Tukmgru · 04/02/2023 15:03

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nilsmousehammer · 04/02/2023 14:52

If one of the sacred caste was treated in the way it is perfectly normal and pious to treat women who say no? The kick off would be huge. Outrage. Just look at the rage and dummy spitting going on about 'tone' that women are doing nothing more than getting blunter in naming reality. I've just seen a Twitter call for a group tantrum to protest 'normalisation of transphobia' - which is basically people talking openly about no one changes sex and sex matters. Unequal standards.

It's like the massive fuss over KJK once took a selfie with someone's aunt's cousin's hamster who once met Someone Dodgy when MSPs are fine to stand under death and rape threat signs and hang around with open supporters of paedophilia.

The blatant double standards. A key characteristic of male abusers. Lundy Bancroft has written entire books on this, I recommend 'why does he do that?'

If a male would prefer not to be called a male, then avoiding very, very male behaviour would help. Because what has been happening for years is the equivalent of asking someone 'does my bum look big in this'. And there is a time and a place for having to say "Yes. Yes, it really does."

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2023 14:41

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:28

Imagine being shown how the constant use of dehumanising words such as ”Gender criticals” leads to dismissing violence against women because you have dehumanised them so you can minimise it and make jokes about it being ‘just being pies’, ‘just silly string’, and ‘just water’ and then just continuing to do it.

I mean, I could not imagine dismissing violence against women and children. But there you go.

You forgot dismissing a decapitate Terfs sign photo by making a joke about a stuffed IKEA toy.

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2023 14:38

FlirtsWithRhinos · 04/02/2023 14:23

Weird isn't it.

Life's two great mysteries.

The Internet forum with the highest proportion of female users is also the one famous for resisting the ideological push to deny female people the right to exist as recognised social and political group.

And the longer one lives as a female bodied person, the less one sees oneself as interchangeable with a male bodied person who feels like a woman.

It sure is a head scratcher!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 04/02/2023 14:31

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:18

OneLongSmorgasbord

Glad I am not the only one who notices. I just keep mentioning some posters can’t see their own casual racism. I figure one day their own hypocrital behaviour will sink in.

I remember the time they cheered on a young white trans-identifying man for making fun of the appearance of a black shop assistant.

It was obvious that he'd treated her like shit in person, too, but as he's trans, apparently that's okay.

The customer is not right when he's an entitled oik who sees himself as worth more than staff members!

picklemewalnuts · 04/02/2023 14:31

Oh yes. Violence. That was it.

picklemewalnuts · 04/02/2023 14:29

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:48

"What worries me about the event tomorrow is that these men are enraged by..."

A lot of you seem to be trying to make this out to be a man v woman thing. It is not. Gender criticals are both men and women, and LGBT supporters are also both men, women and teens of both sexes.

What is clear as mentioned before is GC's are overwhelmingly the older generations.

Yes, but it's the men that are worrrying

Female disrupters are not scary, generally speaking. It's the men that are highly likely to assault GC women.

Can't think why. What is it about men, I wonder? Even the ones who wear lipstick. There's something about them...

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:28

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:56

"We're raising our daughters to carry the baton when we're gone, tough tit"

I'm sure they'll make their own minds up, the same as everyone else will. In a generation or two they may decide to support LGBT rights after all when they realize gender criticals are a thing of the past and almost non-existent.

btw there has been some good news from Finland recently:

www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/02/finland-new-gender-recognition-law-a-major-step-towards-protecting-trans-rights/

Imagine being shown how the constant use of dehumanising words such as ”Gender criticals” leads to dismissing violence against women because you have dehumanised them so you can minimise it and make jokes about it being ‘just being pies’, ‘just silly string’, and ‘just water’ and then just continuing to do it.

I mean, I could not imagine dismissing violence against women and children. But there you go.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 04/02/2023 14:23

Weird isn't it.

Life's two great mysteries.

The Internet forum with the highest proportion of female users is also the one famous for resisting the ideological push to deny female people the right to exist as recognised social and political group.

And the longer one lives as a female bodied person, the less one sees oneself as interchangeable with a male bodied person who feels like a woman.

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:18

OneLongSmorgasbord

Glad I am not the only one who notices. I just keep mentioning some posters can’t see their own casual racism. I figure one day their own hypocrital behaviour will sink in.

queencactus · 04/02/2023 14:15

Many young people are quietly GC, they just don't want to face violence and aggression from the TRAs by speaking out.

OneLongSmorgasbord · 04/02/2023 14:15

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:06

Do you remember the fake tan comment too? I find the latest moralising about racism to be Hmm

I do. They like to do that on any thread that mentions racism conveniently forgetting their own.

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:15

Marg keeps forgetting the generation between 18-28 are particularly known for being the most intolerant despite believing the opposite. It really doesn’t work to say that they are most tolerant when they seem to be scared to speak their real opinions so they don’t lose friends, family and social groups.

How ridiculous that you keep bringing it up Marg. Almost like you are keen to continue to look ignorant so people don’t expect any more from you.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/02/2023 14:11

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:48

"What worries me about the event tomorrow is that these men are enraged by..."

A lot of you seem to be trying to make this out to be a man v woman thing. It is not. Gender criticals are both men and women, and LGBT supporters are also both men, women and teens of both sexes.

What is clear as mentioned before is GC's are overwhelmingly the older generations.

Well what I am seeing is a bunch of angry men getting really pissed off that us women won't give them what they want and are daring to speak about it.

The fact you are seeing something different is because your belief system is different from mine.

And the generation thing, well no. My kids (both sexes) agree with us women as do most of their friends.

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 14:06

OneLongSmorgasbord · 04/02/2023 13:49

Yep, that poster seems to think they hold some sort of moral high ground but as they have a particularly noticeable posting style I can recognise them a mile off and remember some of the offensive shit they've posted.

Do you remember the fake tan comment too? I find the latest moralising about racism to be Hmm

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:56

"We're raising our daughters to carry the baton when we're gone, tough tit"

I'm sure they'll make their own minds up, the same as everyone else will. In a generation or two they may decide to support LGBT rights after all when they realize gender criticals are a thing of the past and almost non-existent.

btw there has been some good news from Finland recently:

www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/02/finland-new-gender-recognition-law-a-major-step-towards-protecting-trans-rights/

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 04/02/2023 13:51

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:48

"What worries me about the event tomorrow is that these men are enraged by..."

A lot of you seem to be trying to make this out to be a man v woman thing. It is not. Gender criticals are both men and women, and LGBT supporters are also both men, women and teens of both sexes.

What is clear as mentioned before is GC's are overwhelmingly the older generations.

Are they? As people either die or get older, that doesn't bode well for you, does it?

I was a TRA when I was 18 too. Grew out of it. What's your excuse?

Johnnysgirl · 04/02/2023 13:51

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:48

"What worries me about the event tomorrow is that these men are enraged by..."

A lot of you seem to be trying to make this out to be a man v woman thing. It is not. Gender criticals are both men and women, and LGBT supporters are also both men, women and teens of both sexes.

What is clear as mentioned before is GC's are overwhelmingly the older generations.

You keep pushing the "you're all old hags who'll die out quite soon" thing, Mags <head tilt>
We're raising our daughters to carry the baton when we're gone, tough tit.

OneLongSmorgasbord · 04/02/2023 13:49

Helleofabore · 04/02/2023 11:26

”Could not make this shit up. Stickers are a worse harassment than shouting at people.”

Remember when a poster on this thread told us on the WiSpa thread that it was more egregious that the woman complaining was in her robe and naked underneath in the public lobby than a sex offender with a semi aroused cock entered a spa bath directly in front of a nine year old girl?

I remember that clearly. There are unfortunately some posters who will make those comparisons. And Marg is not alone.

Yep, that poster seems to think they hold some sort of moral high ground but as they have a particularly noticeable posting style I can recognise them a mile off and remember some of the offensive shit they've posted.

MargaritaPie · 04/02/2023 13:48

"What worries me about the event tomorrow is that these men are enraged by..."

A lot of you seem to be trying to make this out to be a man v woman thing. It is not. Gender criticals are both men and women, and LGBT supporters are also both men, women and teens of both sexes.

What is clear as mentioned before is GC's are overwhelmingly the older generations.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 04/02/2023 13:46

Waitwhat23 · 04/02/2023 11:29

I do have to laugh at the false outrage at property being defaced. In the Meadows in Edinburgh, there are pro trans (anti women) stickers everywhere. I don't think Margey's berating the people who put up those stickers for the crime of defacing property.

And as for 'fear against transpeople', women have been arrested for putting up stickers stating domestic abuse statistics, but a 'decapitate TERFS' sign is apparently A-OK.

These are the stickers.

Notice how they have nothing about trans people on. Yet a trans activist has tried to obscure them with trans flag stickers.

Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen
Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen
onlytherain · 04/02/2023 13:42

@BleepBipBoop
I agree with you in that not every post ever written by women's rights activists about this topic has been polite, unemotional and to the point. However, that is normal in public debates. Mind you, I am not saying it is good, just that it is nothing unusual.

However, trans activists regularly threaten women with violence, rape and murder. That is not normal in public debates, and it is unacceptable. They are actively trying to create an atmosphere of fear in order to stifle debate. Trans activists have prevented women from attending film screenings, from moving freely in public spaces and from speaking about their concerns and experiences. They keep on making any public debate about these issues very difficult or even impossible. You can find a lot of evidence for that online. Many trans activists actions are anti free speech and, ultimately, anti democracy. None of which is true for the goals or actions of women's rights activists.

BTW I also understood the original poster to have refered to the Twitter thread, not to your post.

queencactus · 04/02/2023 13:38

Is there any evidence at all that stickers incite children or adults to violence as claimed by that US article? Or is this just another falsehood that the TRAs have repeated so often that people assume it is true? Other examples being "most marginalised" and claims about high trans murder rates in the UK.

Mallairígh · 04/02/2023 13:18

I'm going to go and deface some public property today with kjk stickers. Literal violence. Against buildings. And all who walk next to them.

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