Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen

"There's even been a whole court case over this"
There certainly has and it's not over yet, but as a result of trying to take down LGB Alliance, Mermaids exposed themselves to the point they're now being investigated by the Charity Commission. Boom.

Can you actually grasp the fact that not having All Things Trans front and centre does not in any way equal being "anti trans"?
Trans issues have nothing to do with sexual orientation; trans people have not only tacked themselves onto the LGB organisations they have nothing in common with, but are, as usual, demanding centre stage there.

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MargaritaPie · Today 17:22

The LGB-Alliance should have the "T" in their name, seeing as trans-people is basically all they talk about. They don't seem to actually do much for LGB people.

Well, back at you: LGBTQ++1 ought only to have LGB in their name. Do you see?

There's even been a whole court case over this.

Yes, your side lost their spurious attempt to have the LGBA removed as a charity, on the entirely false grounds that they were a hate group. Why not mention that?

Do you think that everyone here is an ill informed dummy?

well, Tukmgru's delightful leaving post seems to have been deleted so bbb might have difficulty.

The LGB-Alliance should have the "T" in their name, seeing as trans-people is basically all they talk about. They don't seem to actually do much for LGB people.

There's even been a whole court case over this.

Seriously? 🙄

This has already been established. He was wearing attire bearing the name of the anti-trans LGB-Alliance.

There was a large crowd of LGBT people and allies calling him out on this (as they have a right to do, noone should be silenced, right?). I'm certainly not the only one to be calling him a hater.

the seemingly mortal sin of (gasp) wearing a t-shirt and hat which had the LGBA logo on it
So a guy went to a Pride event for LGBT people sporting a t-shirt and hat with a logo from an organisation that excludes the T part of LGBT?
Darn, can't imagine why he didn't feel welcome at an LGBT event then, that's a bit of a head scratcher!

Oh for a quiet carriage, and for good measure as it's my imagination, it's the smoking carriage as well!

I haven't seen that Julie Bindell clip before and would be interested in the context. In general though, it is my impression that the TRAs threaten violence and aggression and the GC supporters don't. At a recent event in Glasgow TRA supporters had a sign threatening women with decapitation. I haven't seen anything equivalent at GC events. It will be interesting to see what threats the TRAs make tomorrow. They may say that they receive threats of violence and aggression from women but I don't seen any substance to their claims. The violence and aggression only appears to flow in one direction.

And the guy in question was hounded to leave a Pride event for the seemingly mortal sin of (gasp) wearing a t-shirt and hat which had the LGBA logo on it.

I know, I know, the other protesters must have been very restrained not to build a pyre on the spot /s

MargaritaPie · Today 16:46

There's a video online if you want to see for yourself.

Yes, I saw it at the time.

I didn't see anyone "screaming abuse", but I did see a large crowd of young women and men chant "trans lives matter" at the hated until he left.

Are you Nelson? He saw no ships, by way of putting his telescope to his blind eye. But then, we're used to your dissembling ways, by now.

Non gay people feel entitled to hound and bully gay people out of Pride. (For being gay: hater usually means 'won't do straight sex on command' in this sense.)

Yeah spin that all you like, identify away as it being just lovely and totes righteous. Meanwhile back in reality, it's horrific.

Rendell · Today 16:19

It doesn't come across as great, but what's the context? Was the campaign and slogan explained at all?

Not sure what person this is referring to
Maybe you should find out?

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're automatically immune from holding any bigoted opinions, which you seem to be implying with this comment?
Not sure what person this is referring to but it's a bit of a strange stance to take "if they're gay they can't possibly be homophobic or transphobic towards others".... 😕

At one point blacks were the target of abuse, then it became homosexuals, now it's transpeople. Hopefully society will reach a point where no minority group becomes the main target to be abused.

Well society has reached the point where women are the main target to be abused. Male aggression, opening up women's spaces to males in refuges, prisons, toilets, showers, sports, shortlists. Along with the day to day violence abuse and sometimes murder of women. But as they're not a minority group they don't count to you right?

Transpeople are the only 'minority' group who want more than the human rights afforded to everyone in the UK. Alongside that set of rights they also want the rights of women for themselves, and their safeguards from male violence, voyeurism and aggression removed.

No one is abusing transpeople. But transpeople and their allies are abusing women. This will not be a battle they will win.

At one point blacks were the target of abuse, then it became homosexuals, now it's transpeople. Hopefully society will reach a point where no minority group becomes the main target to be abused.

Fred Sargeant, a gay man, was assaulted and abused by people younger than himself. Looks like society is going backwards frankly.

Why would you label a gay man at a Pride (!) event a "hater"?
What's the matter with you?

" offensive behaviour " @BleepBipBoop ???
Could you very kindly give us a few examples of offensive behaviour displayed on this forum, please.
Please do educate relative newcomers like myself, who have yet to see anything remotely resembling offensive behaviour here. It's only fair you should forewarn those of us with a nervous disposition, i'd have thought.
As for changing your name, bit of a waste of time tbh, imo, your attitude will give you away going forward, if it hasn't already to regular posters, who will know everyone's written language ' tells ' by now.

Ah bollox. Sealioning squirrels and derailed carriages all over the track.

FUBAR

There's a video online if you want to see for yourself.

I didn't see anyone "screaming abuse", but I did see a large crowd of young women and men chant "trans lives matter" at the hater until he left.

It's heartwarming to see hateful views appear to be in the minority of the younger generations. Attitudes are improving.

At one point blacks were the target of abuse, then it became homosexuals, now it's transpeople. Hopefully society will reach a point where no minority group becomes the main target to be abused.