Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen

Incidentally for anyone new to this tangled mess,

This 'LGBT' event being discussed (Pride) is no longer a celebration of and visibility of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans.

As you can see from the posts here: 'LGBT event' now means nothing more than 'people compliant to the T ideology'.

They've thrown out the LGBT people who aren't obedient to this, particularly the homosexual ones who won't repent and learn to be bisexual. It's basically now a political party's works outing.

Nah, it's easy. The sin is saying that he won't have sex with a female who internally believes that they are male.

Because he's homosexual. His sin is seeing sex.

And T people, yes, believe homosexual people should be excluded from a celebration of homosexuality for the sin of wanting to have a sexual orientation based on sex, instead of validating T people with their body.

There is no capacity apparently in the T to tolerate this as they happily tolerate all kinks and fetishes. This is a heresy for which they have taken over Pride and thrown out the original group.

For refusing to do straight sex on command.

Dana Rivers was a trans-identifying male participant at Camp Trans, the protest to end Mich Fest, the women's only festival. Dana Rivers was a qualified teacher, and was featured on magazine covers, and platformed by Oprah.

This should be the profile of a man who had too much to lose from escalating to physical violence against non-compliant women.

In fact, he went to the house of two women involved in organising Mich Fest and he brutally stabbed them and one of their sons. He murdered three people

I recommend you read this. It does contain highly distressing information. mandystadtmiller.substack.com/p/rabbitholed-78-dana-rivers-is-the

lol @Boiledbeetle i think you may have a very good point ;-)

What annoys me about people like that, is the brass necked cheek, that they think they have a right to lay the law down and tell other people, ( who are in actual fact, quite able to choose for themselves who they wish to associate with, or support ) what they can do.
Well, I'll do me thanks, they can do them! I've been round the block too many times to allow myself to be dictated to by anyone, let alone an anonymous random on a message board!

Im not certain but I dont think terfisaslur is updated now. There have been many many more instances of vile misogyny, death threats, rape threats etc. I believe we are mostly inured now, we generally take the piss of these now.

Its honestly why I'm here so often, every day a new threat,every day someone hilariously refutes it. If only I was as witty as some if these women.

If anyone wishes to believe something that probably sends up a red flag in their mind without due diligence, that's on them. It's not overly difficult to think hang on if trans people are very likely to be assaulted in "say" mens toilets* , why isnt there an outcry, why haven't the newspapers published reports, how come I have never ever heard of one single instance of this happening?

*pick from a choice of things trans people say happen to them on a regular basis.

Rendell · Today 17:47

... much like no one truely believes that anti-captitalists want to 'eat the rich' or TRAs want to 'decapitate TERFs' now.

Really? When women have been assaulted by TRA zealots, in public, as the Police stand by, scratching their arses, or threatening to arrest the victim, if she didn't piss off? All of the credible threats of rape and violence? Blockading JKR's home and trying to target her kids? Having women sacked, by making false claims of bigotry?

Etc etc.

What would lead you to conclude that some of them don't want to kill some women?

Without minimising the reality that these voices do exist, they are not gender critical feminist voices. They are not speaking for me. I utterly reject them, as I would hope, and very much wish to see, trans and TRA voices rejecting the violence and threats made to GC women

absolutely

i also would be interested in the definition of GC used by some posters…

Yes, thank you for posting that. I have not seen anything similar to that before but this may be because I wouldn't be attracted to those particular sites. I have an aversion to any threats of violence and aggression and wouldn't support threats made against the trans community.

As with @FlirtsWithRhinos I would question if these people were GC. It still remains my view that in Scotland I have not witnessed aggression from GC women whereas there has been from TRA supporters.

I'm glad you posted this. It is important to remember that there are people who are genuinely anti trans, and that the reason so many trans people and TRAs take such an absolutist view about not engaging with GC views in good faith is because they see stuff like this online.

Without minimising the reality that these voices do exist, they are not gender critical feminist voices. They are not speaking for me. I utterly reject them, as I would hope, and very much wish to see, trans and TRA voices rejecting the violence and threats made to GC women.

Genuine question: have any trans people or TRAs said anything about the "decapitate TERFs" sign?

Current ongoing situation of women being stopped from speaking at the Education for Women's Liberation and a woman being attacked -

twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1621899072318705665?s=20&t=h6L_7TeVQJIQHrOdIUfWVQ

Re the sign that had a drawing of a guillotine on it? I addressed this on the other thread and acknowledged it isn't appropriate or helpful.

I'm not so sure that some TRAs wouldn't want to kill GC feminists if they had the opportunity. JKR mentioned that she had enough death threats to paper a room. Joanna Cherry is in court soon to give evidence about personal threats she received, although may have been for rape rather than murder.

I agree

That's it in a nutshell. The arrogance is frankly astounding.

@CryInToYourCornflakesNicola That is truly horrific. And exactly what I meant. TRAs claim that GC women are aggressive but I've never seen anything equivalent to those posts. The TRAs seem to have been very good at making assertions that don't always stand up to examination, but these assertions are repeated so often that many people start to believe them.

That's the one 👍, it's a good documentary and worth a watch.

Of course no one truely believed that radfems wanted to 'kill all men' back then, much like no one truely believes that anti-captitalists want to 'eat the rich' or TRAs want to 'decapitate TERFs' now.

Going with your reasoning, then any 'Trans Pride' signs or similar should have similarly been ejected? Given they didn't mention the rest of the alphabet.

It's such a bizarre thing that it's seemingly totally fine with TRA's for specific, specialised groups, services, mottos etc to exist for trans people but the mere idea of similar groups for people who share the common characteristic of being same sex (or same and opposite sex) attracted is just totally unacceptable.

No, Marge is too busy decrying the woman responsible for stickers like the one below!

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole looking for the source of that short clip (having been very confused as to why a less than 30 second clip was given as some sort of response).

The clip comes from a much longer documentary by the BBC, part of a series of documentaries called Lefties. This episode was called 'Angry Wimmen' and talks about the rage felt by radical feminists in the 1970/1980's. The clip is available in full on the reddit/mensrights (somewhat unsurprisingly) and also seems to be on YouTube.

Haven't had a chance to watch in full but will later to find out the context of the badges mentioned.

Any comment @MargaritaPie ?? Love to hear you tie yourself in knots justifying that.
Bet you'll just ignore it, as usual.

Well when you're running out of semi coherent excuses and reasons eventually you are left with...Well the absurd!

Sorry every time i see the words decapitated Terfs sign I just feel obliged to post This

Always love the both sides argument. Then I get to roll out this link

terfisaslur.com/

And ask , usually without a reply, where exactly have you seen cunty type women making these kind of threats?

Its always illuminating.